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book / recommends

Endurance

“I don't read a lot of nonfiction, but probably if I had to pick one in the area of the topics we talked about, Competing Against Luck, which was the book that produced Jobs to be Done, which is a framework I really believe in. My only critique is I think most of these business books should be like an article. So maybe buy the book and punch it into ChatGPT and get the summary. But buy the book it's Clayton Christensen talked about it, but it's a really good framework for thinking about delivering value with your products. And I think it definitely influenced me. Actually one book I do recommend is Endurance, which is the story of Shackleton's trip to go to the South Pole. Half the book is him starving to death and eating seal meat with his crew of people frozen in their boat. I've never seen a better story of grit in my entire life. It's remarkable that it's a true story and if you're an entrepreneur going through a hard time, read that, you'd be like, okay, it could be worse. It's a great book too. It's just remarkable that it's a true story.”

Lenny's Podcast · 31 Jul 2025

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book / recommends

Competing Against Luck

“I don't read a lot of nonfiction, but probably if I had to pick one in the area of the topics we talked about, Competing Against Luck, which was the book that produced Jobs to be Done, which is a framework I really believe in. My only critique is I think most of these business books should be like an article. So maybe buy the book and punch it into ChatGPT and get the summary. But buy the book it's Clayton Christensen talked about it, but it's a really good framework for thinking about delivering value with your products. And I think it definitely influenced me. Actually one book I do recommend is Endurance, which is the story of Shackleton's trip to go to the South Pole. Half the book is him starving to death and eating seal meat with his crew of people frozen in their boat. I've never seen a better story of grit in my entire life. It's remarkable that it's a true story and if you're an entrepreneur going through a hard time, read that, you'd be like, okay, it could be worse. It's a great book too. It's just remarkable that it's a true story.”

Lenny's Podcast · 31 Jul 2025

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01 / recommendation

Yeah, it's like you almost want to put everything in a file system that looks like source code, not because that's the only way these agents can work, but actually it's quite an efficient way to get a mix of context and random access memory.

“Yeah, it's like you almost want to put everything in a file system that looks like source code, not because that's the only way these agents can work, but actually it's quite an efficient way to get a mix of context and random access memory.”
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Bret Taylor
Publisher
Cheeky Pint

06 / belief

I think not only am I somewhat skeptical that there will only be two companies in the world, I actually think one of the main things impeding adoption of AI is the lack of existence of all those other companies.

“I think not only am I somewhat skeptical that there will only be two companies in the world, I actually think one of the main things impeding adoption of AI is the lack of existence of all those other companies.”
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Bret Taylor
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Cheeky Pint

07 / belief

All of a sudden, not only can you afford to provide a great customer experience to more people, even less profitable customers or in lower-margin businesses, which I think is very exciting.

“All of a sudden, not only can you afford to provide a great customer experience to more people, even less profitable customers or in lower-margin businesses, which I think is very exciting.”
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Bret Taylor
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Cheeky Pint

08 / belief

I think at the end of the day, when you're building a business, especially one that's in hyper growth, which successful businesses in tech tend to be, if you are too clever and austere, and going back to your point about Silicon Valley culture is all being the same, there are examples of companies that really innovated in culture.

“I think at the end of the day, when you're building a business, especially one that's in hyper growth, which successful businesses in tech tend to be, if you are too clever and austere, and going back to your point about Silicon Valley culture is all being the same, there are examples of companies that really innovated in culture.”
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Bret Taylor
Publisher
Cheeky Pint

09 / belief

The way we think about context and how that context is shared so that the agent that's orchestrating it actually understands what's behind all these APIs and why and the history will maybe look a little bit more like OpenClaw and less like MCP over time.

“The way we think about context and how that context is shared so that the agent that's orchestrating it actually understands what's behind all these APIs and why and the history will maybe look a little bit more like OpenClaw and less like MCP over time.”
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Bret Taylor
Publisher
Cheeky Pint

12 / belief

Going back to the first thing we were talking about, it's hard for me to not care about the elegance of the source code, which I think is an impediment to my fully realizing being a software engineer in this new world.

“Going back to the first thing we were talking about, it's hard for me to not care about the elegance of the source code, which I think is an impediment to my fully realizing being a software engineer in this new world.”
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Bret Taylor
Publisher
Cheeky Pint

14 / belief

I think that'll be true for some software, particularly developer platforms and things like that that are already being consumed and purchased by other engineers.

“I think that'll be true for some software, particularly developer platforms and things like that that are already being consumed and purchased by other engineers.”
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Bret Taylor
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Cheeky Pint

21 / belief

I think the exciting part in our world is you're taking something that was just so expensive that people literally hid their phone numbers so people couldn't call them, and you're making it inexpensive and delightful.

“I think the exciting part in our world is you're taking something that was just so expensive that people literally hid their phone numbers so people couldn't call them, and you're making it inexpensive and delightful.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Cheeky Pint

23 / belief

On one hand, I think I actually agree with the principle that one of the powerful parts about AI, with its ability to do text, do audio, and I'll say, I'm not sure how you qualify computer use, but you can call it a form of image recognition and manipulation.

“On one hand, I think I actually agree with the principle that one of the powerful parts about AI, with its ability to do text, do audio, and I'll say, I'm not sure how you qualify computer use, but you can call it a form of image recognition and manipulation.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Cheeky Pint

24 / belief

Given the progress in math, I'm hopeful we have at least one moment of discovery that is inspiring, because I think a lot of the dialog around AI right now is economic opportunities, but also what could go wrong.

“Given the progress in math, I'm hopeful we have at least one moment of discovery that is inspiring, because I think a lot of the dialog around AI right now is economic opportunities, but also what could go wrong.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Cheeky Pint

26 / prediction

" What would end up happening is a supervisor agent would observe your reasoning, say, "I think John should have actually looked up the policy here" and send it back with notes and say, "Actually, you're not allowed to make that decision.

“" What would end up happening is a supervisor agent would observe your reasoning, say, "I think John should have actually looked up the policy here" and send it back with notes and say, "Actually, you're not allowed to make that decision.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Cheeky Pint

27 / evaluation

One of the challenges when you're offering either sales or service or customer experience to a really well-known brand is it's harder to ground it. It's actually easier when the internet has never heard of you and you want to make a well-grounded agent, it's actually pretty easy because there's no temptation from the LLMs to go off-script.

“One of the challenges when you're offering either sales or service or customer experience to a really well-known brand is it's harder to ground it. It's actually easier when the internet has never heard of you and you want to make a well-grounded agent, it's actually pretty easy because there's no temptation from the LLMs to go off-script.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Cheeky Pint

28 / prediction

If you have an AI agent that is making sales for Stripe to small businesses, and I told you I will sell one-tenth the number of new Stripe GMV, however you value that, but I'll use one one-hundredth of the tokens, you probably wouldn't care.

“If you have an AI agent that is making sales for Stripe to small businesses, and I told you I will sell one-tenth the number of new Stripe GMV, however you value that, but I'll use one one-hundredth of the tokens, you probably wouldn't care.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Cheeky Pint

30 / prediction

I think actually we will end up reimagining our companies with the benefit of AI, will we actually think of our companies as a collection of processes, have people responsible them with KPIs who can apply AI.

“I think actually we will end up reimagining our companies with the benefit of AI, will we actually think of our companies as a collection of processes, have people responsible them with KPIs who can apply AI.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Cheeky Pint

31 / evaluation

" The answer is obviously yes, over some period of time. But it's really interesting because sometimes, I think the hard part of engineering is in the details, and code repos have very specific qualities.

“" The answer is obviously yes, over some period of time. But it's really interesting because sometimes, I think the hard part of engineering is in the details, and code repos have very specific qualities.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Cheeky Pint

32 / preference

I'm not saying the code doesn't matter, but I've been trying to force myself to not care because I feel like I won't be a self-actualized software engineer in the future if I'm too precious about that artifact which used to be so central to me.

“I'm not saying the code doesn't matter, but I've been trying to force myself to not care because I feel like I won't be a self-actualized software engineer in the future if I'm too precious about that artifact which used to be so central to me.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Cheeky Pint

33 / prediction

I think that we will end up with individual tech leads who, because of the existence of AI agents, will become even more important, where if you are a, I'll say, product engineer, I'm trying to find the right word for it—we might invent one—who has taste but didn't necessarily know CSS, who has infrastructure ability, meaning that you understand the basics of distributed systems and debugging, and you understand your customer very deeply.

“I think that we will end up with individual tech leads who, because of the existence of AI agents, will become even more important, where if you are a, I'll say, product engineer, I'm trying to find the right word for it—we might invent one—who has taste but didn't necessarily know CSS, who has infrastructure ability, meaning that you understand the basics of distributed systems and debugging, and you understand your customer very deeply.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Cheeky Pint

34 / evaluation

We just did a great case study with SoFi, and I'm really proud that we raised their net promoter score by 33 points just because it's just so delightful.

“We just did a great case study with SoFi, and I'm really proud that we raised their net promoter score by 33 points just because it's just so delightful.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Cheeky Pint

35 / evaluation

I don't know. It's interesting because if you look at the past few iterations of technology, you had the PC revolution, then you had the internet and the browser, then the smartphone came out and the tablet.

“I don't know. It's interesting because if you look at the past few iterations of technology, you had the PC revolution, then you had the internet and the browser, then the smartphone came out and the tablet.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Cheeky Pint

36 / recommendation

Recommends Competing Against Luck. Recommends Endurance.

“I don't read a lot of nonfiction, but probably if I had to pick one in the area of the topics we talked about, Competing Against Luck, which was the book that produced Jobs to be Done, which is a framework I really believe in. My only critique is I think most of these business books should be like an article. So maybe buy the book and punch it into ChatGPT and get the summary. But buy the book it's Clayton Christensen talked about it, but it's a really good framework for thinking about delivering value with your products. And I think it definitely influenced me. Actually one book I do recommend is Endurance, which is the story of Shackleton's trip to go to the South Pole. Half the book is him starving to death and eating seal meat with his crew of people frozen in their boat. I've never seen a better story of grit in my entire life. It's remarkable that it's a true story and if you're an entrepreneur going through a hard time, read that, you'd be like, okay, it could be worse. It's a great book too. It's just remarkable that it's a true story.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

37 / belief

I don't think mobile phones are great in school or great for kids and I personally advocate for waiting a long time. But I think that ChatGPT is more like Google search and it's one thing to have a device in your pocket that's addictive and has push notifications, but it's another thing to use AI to learn.

“I don't think mobile phones are great in school or great for kids and I personally advocate for waiting a long time. But I think that ChatGPT is more like Google search and it's one thing to have a device in your pocket that's addictive and has push notifications, but it's another thing to use AI to learn.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

38 / belief

I do still think studying computer science is a different answer than learning to code, but I would say I still think it's extremely valuable to study computer science. I say that because I think computer science is more than coding.

“I do still think studying computer science is a different answer than learning to code, but I would say I still think it's extremely valuable to study computer science. I say that because I think computer science is more than coding.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

39 / belief

I think a lot companies use that, which is great, that motion produces great products, but if PLG means that you aren't actually engaging with the buyer of your software, you're not going to grow. And so, I've actually seen more recently, with a lot of AI companies, direct sales come a little bit more back into fashion because I think so many of the opportunities in AI actually meet that qualification where the buyer and the user are not necessarily the same person and it really requires that go-to-market motion.

“I think a lot companies use that, which is great, that motion produces great products, but if PLG means that you aren't actually engaging with the buyer of your software, you're not going to grow. And so, I've actually seen more recently, with a lot of AI companies, direct sales come a little bit more back into fashion because I think so many of the opportunities in AI actually meet that qualification where the buyer and the user are not necessarily the same person and it really requires that go-to-market motion.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

40 / belief

All of the companies that were startups that tried to do this have already been consolidated or almost all of them, inflection, adapt, character and others. And I think there doesn't appear to be a viable business model for a startup because of the amount of CapEx required and there's just not enough fundraising runway to get to escape velocity.

“All of the companies that were startups that tried to do this have already been consolidated or almost all of them, inflection, adapt, character and others. And I think there doesn't appear to be a viable business model for a startup because of the amount of CapEx required and there's just not enough fundraising runway to get to escape velocity.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

42 / belief

If you want to go from a 65% automated resolution rate to 75%, we have a billion tools to let AI help you do that, identify opportunities for improvement, figure out why people are frustrated, what new capabilities can we add to our agent to improve the resolution rate? And you let AI put the needles at the top of the haystack on your behalf and I think that's really the way to optimize these systems.

“If you want to go from a 65% automated resolution rate to 75%, we have a billion tools to let AI help you do that, identify opportunities for improvement, figure out why people are frustrated, what new capabilities can we add to our agent to improve the resolution rate? And you let AI put the needles at the top of the haystack on your behalf and I think that's really the way to optimize these systems.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

43 / belief

I think agents will truly start to bend the curve again like we did in the very early days of computing because software is going from helping an individual be slightly more productive to actually accomplishing a job autonomously.

“I think agents will truly start to bend the curve again like we did in the very early days of computing because software is going from helping an individual be slightly more productive to actually accomplishing a job autonomously.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

44 / belief

I think there's a huge difference between outcomes-based pricing and usage based pricing because especially in AI, they're not necessarily even correlated and you could have a long phone call and not solve the customer's problem and they give you a negative review online and call the call center again, all that effort was for nothing.

“I think there's a huge difference between outcomes-based pricing and usage based pricing because especially in AI, they're not necessarily even correlated and you could have a long phone call and not solve the customer's problem and they give you a negative review online and call the call center again, all that effort was for nothing.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

45 / belief

I was looking at a website for the top 50 software companies in the stock market and obviously, the top five are the big, big boom ones like Microsoft, Amazon, Google, all that, but the next 50 are all SaaS companies and some of them are very exciting, some of them are super boring, but this is how the software market has evolved and I think we're going to see something similar with agents.

“I was looking at a website for the top 50 software companies in the stock market and obviously, the top five are the big, big boom ones like Microsoft, Amazon, Google, all that, but the next 50 are all SaaS companies and some of them are very exciting, some of them are super boring, but this is how the software market has evolved and I think we're going to see something similar with agents.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

46 / belief

I'm probably out of my depth here, but it's essentially MCP because that's how you provide context to Cursor. And I think that almost always when you have a model making a poor decision, if it's a good model, it's lack of context.

“I'm probably out of my depth here, but it's essentially MCP because that's how you provide context to Cursor. And I think that almost always when you have a model making a poor decision, if it's a good model, it's lack of context.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

47 / preference

I don't know if I could have figured out how to reach out to Ashton Kutcher [inaudible 00:27:28], it's not he's on my Rolodex.

“I don't know if I could have figured out how to reach out to Ashton Kutcher [inaudible 00:27:28], it's not he's on my Rolodex.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

48 / preference

I have become much more receptive to doing things that I previously would've said aren't my favorite things to do because I derive so much joy from having an impact that I enjoy a lot more things now.

“I have become much more receptive to doing things that I previously would've said aren't my favorite things to do because I derive so much joy from having an impact that I enjoy a lot more things now.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

49 / prediction

I think the whole market is going to go towards outcomes-based pricing, not because it's the only way, but the market is going to pull everyone there because it's just so obviously the correct way to build and sell software.

“I think the whole market is going to go towards outcomes-based pricing, not because it's the only way, but the market is going to pull everyone there because it's just so obviously the correct way to build and sell software.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

50 / evaluation

This works if your product is a platform product. It doesn't work, for example, if your product is trying to help a line of business because lines of business typically don't have dedicated engineering teams or let alone, the latitude to just go download a new library or start using a web service like that.

“This works if your product is a platform product. It doesn't work, for example, if your product is trying to help a line of business because lines of business typically don't have dedicated engineering teams or let alone, the latitude to just go download a new library or start using a web service like that.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

51 / evaluation

We ended up integrating mapping local search, driving directions, like all of these products at the time were actually separate product categories and ended up with something that redefined the industry and certainly my career. But it took, I think for me as a product leader, it changed the way I think about product just because there's feature and functionality and then there's like why should I use this thing in the first place?

“We ended up integrating mapping local search, driving directions, like all of these products at the time were actually separate product categories and ended up with something that redefined the industry and certainly my career. But it took, I think for me as a product leader, it changed the way I think about product just because there's feature and functionality and then there's like why should I use this thing in the first place?”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

52 / prediction

I think we need more things like that because if an AI is generating this code, by definition, if you have to read every line that is going to be the limiting factor for producing the code or worse, you're just not going to read every line and you're going to emit a bunch of unsafe unverified code into the wild.

“I think we need more things like that because if an AI is generating this code, by definition, if you have to read every line that is going to be the limiting factor for producing the code or worse, you're just not going to read every line and you're going to emit a bunch of unsafe unverified code into the wild.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

53 / evaluation

We launched the first version of that product that I was the product manager for, was called Google Local and it was, I'll be a little bit more critical now than I might've been at the time, but it was a little bit of a me too version of Yahoo Yellow Pages, essentially grafting on Yellow Pages search on top of Google Search and with a properly crafted query you could see those listings at the top of your search results but a standalone site at local.

“We launched the first version of that product that I was the product manager for, was called Google Local and it was, I'll be a little bit more critical now than I might've been at the time, but it was a little bit of a me too version of Yahoo Yellow Pages, essentially grafting on Yellow Pages search on top of Google Search and with a properly crafted query you could see those listings at the top of your search results but a standalone site at local.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

54 / evaluation

How do you teach kids differently? It's really hard for teachers right now because I think we haven't gone through the transition of adding calculators to the exams.

“How do you teach kids differently? It's really hard for teachers right now because I think we haven't gone through the transition of adding calculators to the exams.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

56 / preference

I probably would self-describe as an engineer, but more broadly I think of myself as a builder and I like to build products and I think companies are one of the most effective ways to build products.

“I probably would self-describe as an engineer, but more broadly I think of myself as a builder and I like to build products and I think companies are one of the most effective ways to build products.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

59 / belief

By the way, I would love to talk about the future of software, too, because despite the fact it didn't pick coding, I have a lot of that, but I can talk to I can answer your question, though, you know I think when a technology is as [00:29:00] cool as large language models.

“By the way, I would love to talk about the future of software, too, because despite the fact it didn't pick coding, I have a lot of that, but I can talk to I can answer your question, though, you know I think when a technology is as [00:29:00] cool as large language models.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Latent Space

62 / evaluation

Broadly, but I, but it doesn't reduce my excitement about what is the reactive building agents kind of thing, just because it is, it is the right question to ask, but I think we'll probably play out probably an open source space more than anything else.

“Broadly, but I, but it doesn't reduce my excitement about what is the reactive building agents kind of thing, just because it is, it is the right question to ask, but I think we'll probably play out probably an open source space more than anything else.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Latent Space

63 / belief

People be more productive, but you're actually accomplishing tasks autonomously. And as a consequence, I think the [00:32:00] addressable market has just greatly expanded just because software can actually do things now and actually accomplish tasks and how much is coding autocomplete worth.

“People be more productive, but you're actually accomplishing tasks autonomously. And as a consequence, I think the [00:32:00] addressable market has just greatly expanded just because software can actually do things now and actually accomplish tasks and how much is coding autocomplete worth.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Latent Space

64 / preference

Salesforce, I was coding on the weekends. So I think of myself as an engineer and then all the roles that I do in my career sort of start with that just because I do feel like engineering is sort of a mindset and how I approach most of my life.

“Salesforce, I was coding on the weekends. So I think of myself as an engineer and then all the roles that I do in my career sort of start with that just because I do feel like engineering is sort of a mindset and how I approach most of my life.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Latent Space

65 / commitment

We build most of our tooling in house at Sierra, not all. It's, we don't, it's not like not invented here syndrome necessarily, though, maybe slightly guilty of that in some ways, but because we're trying to build a platform [00:23:00] that's in Dorian, you know, we really want to have control over our own destiny.

“We build most of our tooling in house at Sierra, not all. It's, we don't, it's not like not invented here syndrome necessarily, though, maybe slightly guilty of that in some ways, but because we're trying to build a platform [00:23:00] that's in Dorian, you know, we really want to have control over our own destiny.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Latent Space

66 / commitment

Because we're trying to create an enduring company at Sierra that outlives us, you know, I'm not sure we want to like attach our cart to some like to a horse where it's not clear that like we've figured out and I actually want as a company, we're trying to enable just at a high level and I'll, I'll quickly go back to tech at Sierra, we help consumer brands build customer facing AI agents.

“Because we're trying to create an enduring company at Sierra that outlives us, you know, I'm not sure we want to like attach our cart to some like to a horse where it's not clear that like we've figured out and I actually want as a company, we're trying to enable just at a high level and I'll, I'll quickly go back to tech at Sierra, we help consumer brands build customer facing AI agents.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Latent Space

67 / prediction

Making real time updates was still very hand coded and it's really neat when you [00:16:00] see conceptual breakthroughs like react because it's, I just love those things where it's like obvious once you see it, but it's so not obvious until you do. And actually, well, I'm sure we'll get into AI, but I, I sort of feel like we'll go through that evolution with AI agents as well that I feel like we're missing a lot of the core abstractions that I think in 10 years we'll be like, gosh, how'd you make agents?

“Making real time updates was still very hand coded and it's really neat when you [00:16:00] see conceptual breakthroughs like react because it's, I just love those things where it's like obvious once you see it, but it's so not obvious until you do. And actually, well, I'm sure we'll get into AI, but I, I sort of feel like we'll go through that evolution with AI agents as well that I feel like we're missing a lot of the core abstractions that I think in 10 years we'll be like, gosh, how'd you make agents?”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Latent Space

68 / evaluation

I'm not really a 50, 50 ball. So I feel very fortunate in retrospect that the economy collapsed because in some ways it forced me into like one of the greatest companies of all time, but I kind of lucked into it, I think.

“I'm not really a 50, 50 ball. So I feel very fortunate in retrospect that the economy collapsed because in some ways it forced me into like one of the greatest companies of all time, but I kind of lucked into it, I think.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Latent Space

69 / evaluation

This is so amazing. And I wouldn't, I don't know if I'd be, I wouldn't, I'm not [01:20:00] sure I would have started another company if not for open AI, kind of inspiring the world with chat GPT, maybe I would have, I don't know, but it was like, it had a very significant impact on you, all of us, I think.

“This is so amazing. And I wouldn't, I don't know if I'd be, I wouldn't, I'm not [01:20:00] sure I would have started another company if not for open AI, kind of inspiring the world with chat GPT, maybe I would have, I don't know, but it was like, it had a very significant impact on you, all of us, I think.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Latent Space

70 / prediction

I would like to see an AI native programming language and programming system, and I use language because I'm not sure language is even the right thing, but I hope in 30 years, there's an AI native way we make [00:48:00] software that is wholly uncorrelated with the current set of programming languages.

“I would like to see an AI native programming language and programming system, and I use language because I'm not sure language is even the right thing, but I hope in 30 years, there's an AI native way we make [00:48:00] software that is wholly uncorrelated with the current set of programming languages.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Latent Space

71 / commitment

Yeah, I, I brought this anecdote in a recent conversation, but When I started at Google, we were in one building in Mountain View and then eventually moved into a campus, which was previously the Silicon Graphics campus.

“Yeah, I, I brought this anecdote in a recent conversation, but When I started at Google, we were in one building in Mountain View and then eventually moved into a campus, which was previously the Silicon Graphics campus.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Latent Space

72 / evaluation

How much does a latte cost? And I bring it up because there's a supply chain from growing [00:30:00] coffee beans to roasting coffee beans to like, you know, you could make one at home or you could be in the airport and buy one and the margins of the company selling lattes in the airport is a lot higher than the, you know, people roasting the coffee beans and it's because you've actually solved a much more acute human problem in the airport.

“How much does a latte cost? And I bring it up because there's a supply chain from growing [00:30:00] coffee beans to roasting coffee beans to like, you know, you could make one at home or you could be in the airport and buy one and the margins of the company selling lattes in the airport is a lot higher than the, you know, people roasting the coffee beans and it's because you've actually solved a much more acute human problem in the airport.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Latent Space
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