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Bret Taylor: belief

31 Jul 2025 Lenny's Podcast He saved OpenAI, invented the “Like” button, and built Google Maps: Bret Taylor on the future of careers, coding, agents, and more

“The whole market is going to go towards agents. I think the whole market is going to go towards outcomes-based pricing.”

— Bret Taylor

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Speaker
Bret Taylor
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Claim type
belief
Recorded
31 Jul 2025
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

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…You're CTO of Meta. You are a co-CEO of Salesforce, you're chairman of the board at OpenAI. How do you think the AI market is going to play out? The whole market is going to go towards agents. I think the whole market is going to go towards outcomes-based pricing. It's just so obviously the correct way to build and sell software. This makes me think about, I had Marc Benioff on the podcast. You guys were co-CEOs. He was extremely agent-pilled.…

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