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Bret Taylor

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Endurance

“I don't read a lot of nonfiction, but probably if I had to pick one in the area of the topics we talked about, Competing Against Luck, which was the book that produced Jobs to be Done, which is a framework I really believe in. My only critique is I think most of these business books should be like an article. So maybe buy the book and punch it into ChatGPT and get the summary. But buy the book it's Clayton Christensen talked about it, but it's a really good framework for thinking about delivering value with your products. And I think it definitely influenced me. Actually one book I do recommend is Endurance, which is the story of Shackleton's trip to go to the South Pole. Half the book is him starving to death and eating seal meat with his crew of people frozen in their boat. I've never seen a better story of grit in my entire life. It's remarkable that it's a true story and if you're an entrepreneur going through a hard time, read that, you'd be like, okay, it could be worse. It's a great book too. It's just remarkable that it's a true story.”

Lenny's Podcast · 31 Jul 2025

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Competing Against Luck

“I don't read a lot of nonfiction, but probably if I had to pick one in the area of the topics we talked about, Competing Against Luck, which was the book that produced Jobs to be Done, which is a framework I really believe in. My only critique is I think most of these business books should be like an article. So maybe buy the book and punch it into ChatGPT and get the summary. But buy the book it's Clayton Christensen talked about it, but it's a really good framework for thinking about delivering value with your products. And I think it definitely influenced me. Actually one book I do recommend is Endurance, which is the story of Shackleton's trip to go to the South Pole. Half the book is him starving to death and eating seal meat with his crew of people frozen in their boat. I've never seen a better story of grit in my entire life. It's remarkable that it's a true story and if you're an entrepreneur going through a hard time, read that, you'd be like, okay, it could be worse. It's a great book too. It's just remarkable that it's a true story.”

Lenny's Podcast · 31 Jul 2025

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01 / prediction

" What would end up happening is a supervisor agent would observe your reasoning, say, "I think John should have actually looked up the policy here" and send it back with notes and say, "Actually, you're not allowed to make that decision.

“" What would end up happening is a supervisor agent would observe your reasoning, say, "I think John should have actually looked up the policy here" and send it back with notes and say, "Actually, you're not allowed to make that decision.”
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Bret Taylor
Publisher
Cheeky Pint

02 / prediction

If you have an AI agent that is making sales for Stripe to small businesses, and I told you I will sell one-tenth the number of new Stripe GMV, however you value that, but I'll use one one-hundredth of the tokens, you probably wouldn't care.

“If you have an AI agent that is making sales for Stripe to small businesses, and I told you I will sell one-tenth the number of new Stripe GMV, however you value that, but I'll use one one-hundredth of the tokens, you probably wouldn't care.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Cheeky Pint

03 / prediction

I think actually we will end up reimagining our companies with the benefit of AI, will we actually think of our companies as a collection of processes, have people responsible them with KPIs who can apply AI.

“I think actually we will end up reimagining our companies with the benefit of AI, will we actually think of our companies as a collection of processes, have people responsible them with KPIs who can apply AI.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Cheeky Pint

04 / prediction

I think that we will end up with individual tech leads who, because of the existence of AI agents, will become even more important, where if you are a, I'll say, product engineer, I'm trying to find the right word for it—we might invent one—who has taste but didn't necessarily know CSS, who has infrastructure ability, meaning that you understand the basics of distributed systems and debugging, and you understand your customer very deeply.

“I think that we will end up with individual tech leads who, because of the existence of AI agents, will become even more important, where if you are a, I'll say, product engineer, I'm trying to find the right word for it—we might invent one—who has taste but didn't necessarily know CSS, who has infrastructure ability, meaning that you understand the basics of distributed systems and debugging, and you understand your customer very deeply.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Cheeky Pint

05 / prediction

I think the whole market is going to go towards outcomes-based pricing, not because it's the only way, but the market is going to pull everyone there because it's just so obviously the correct way to build and sell software.

“I think the whole market is going to go towards outcomes-based pricing, not because it's the only way, but the market is going to pull everyone there because it's just so obviously the correct way to build and sell software.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

06 / prediction

I think we need more things like that because if an AI is generating this code, by definition, if you have to read every line that is going to be the limiting factor for producing the code or worse, you're just not going to read every line and you're going to emit a bunch of unsafe unverified code into the wild.

“I think we need more things like that because if an AI is generating this code, by definition, if you have to read every line that is going to be the limiting factor for producing the code or worse, you're just not going to read every line and you're going to emit a bunch of unsafe unverified code into the wild.”
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Bret Taylor
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

07 / prediction

Making real time updates was still very hand coded and it's really neat when you [00:16:00] see conceptual breakthroughs like react because it's, I just love those things where it's like obvious once you see it, but it's so not obvious until you do. And actually, well, I'm sure we'll get into AI, but I, I sort of feel like we'll go through that evolution with AI agents as well that I feel like we're missing a lot of the core abstractions that I think in 10 years we'll be like, gosh, how'd you make agents?

“Making real time updates was still very hand coded and it's really neat when you [00:16:00] see conceptual breakthroughs like react because it's, I just love those things where it's like obvious once you see it, but it's so not obvious until you do. And actually, well, I'm sure we'll get into AI, but I, I sort of feel like we'll go through that evolution with AI agents as well that I feel like we're missing a lot of the core abstractions that I think in 10 years we'll be like, gosh, how'd you make agents?”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Latent Space

08 / prediction

I would like to see an AI native programming language and programming system, and I use language because I'm not sure language is even the right thing, but I hope in 30 years, there's an AI native way we make [00:48:00] software that is wholly uncorrelated with the current set of programming languages.

“I would like to see an AI native programming language and programming system, and I use language because I'm not sure language is even the right thing, but I hope in 30 years, there's an AI native way we make [00:48:00] software that is wholly uncorrelated with the current set of programming languages.”
Speaker
Bret Taylor
Publisher
Latent Space
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