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The ultimate guide to founder-led sales | Jen Abel (co-founder of JJELLYFISH)

24 Nov 2024 23 published claims 2 attributable people
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Jen AbelLenny Rachitsky

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belief 9recommendation 5evaluation 3preference 3commitment 1uncertainty 1observation 1

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01 / evaluation

That's one out of 10, that's a 10% win rate. So if you have a really high win rate, let's say 30 or 40%, you actually don't need as high of a conversion rate on the outbound, because you know if you get someone in the funnel, the throughput is very healthy.

“That's one out of 10, that's a 10% win rate. So if you have a really high win rate, let's say 30 or 40%, you actually don't need as high of a conversion rate on the outbound, because you know if you get someone in the funnel, the throughput is very healthy.”
Speaker
Jen Abel
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

02 / commitment

One is Sprig. They shared a story of first round capital at their first round and their partner there is just like, we will not let you hire a salesperson until you hit a million ARR.

“One is Sprig. They shared a story of first round capital at their first round and their partner there is just like, we will not let you hire a salesperson until you hit a million ARR.”
Speaker
Lenny Rachitsky
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

09 / belief

Amazing. And I mentioned this when we were chatting, but I think of it again, is when I was interviewing all these companies about how they started selling early on.

“Amazing. And I mentioned this when we were chatting, but I think of it again, is when I was interviewing all these companies about how they started selling early on.”
Speaker
Lenny Rachitsky
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

14 / recommendation

Yes, that is important down market. That is important if you're selling a $3,000 tool, you absolutely want to be demoing as fast as humanly possible because it's a high-volume game.

“Yes, that is important down market. That is important if you're selling a $3,000 tool, you absolutely want to be demoing as fast as humanly possible because it's a high-volume game.”
Speaker
Jen Abel
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

17 / recommendation

I think a nice framework for how we can go through this is basically first let's talk about the sales cycle, the steps, the key steps of a sales cycle.

“I think a nice framework for how we can go through this is basically first let's talk about the sales cycle, the steps, the key steps of a sales cycle.”
Speaker
Lenny Rachitsky
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

18 / evaluation

She has this really interesting insight that it's harder to buy software now than to sell it, because there's so much to consider and your job is on the line if you make a mistake.

“She has this really interesting insight that it's harder to buy software now than to sell it, because there's so much to consider and your job is on the line if you make a mistake.”
Speaker
Lenny Rachitsky
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

19 / recommendation

If you're a trusted founder, your market will continually send you leads and word of mouth. So don't try and sell something just to prove to investors you sold something, because it'll be quickly seen on the other side when they churn.

“If you're a trusted founder, your market will continually send you leads and word of mouth. So don't try and sell something just to prove to investors you sold something, because it'll be quickly seen on the other side when they churn.”
Speaker
Jen Abel
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

22 / preference

I always assume that the buyer I'm speaking to is highly educated and knows way more than I do. So just have that perception because what I've learned is a lot of the market will play dumb, and you can get yourself caught pretty quickly.

“I always assume that the buyer I'm speaking to is highly educated and knows way more than I do. So just have that perception because what I've learned is a lot of the market will play dumb, and you can get yourself caught pretty quickly.”
Speaker
Jen Abel
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast
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