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How to close $100K+ enterprise deals, step by step | Jen Abel

23 Aug 2026 25 published claims 2 attributable people
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Lenny RachitskyJen Abel

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01 / recommendation

It's such a point I've never heard before, this idea of when you're demoing, demo as narrow a slice of the product as you can that addresses their priorities and needs. Because to your point, they may feel like, "Why do we need all this stuff?

“It's such a point I've never heard before, this idea of when you're demoing, demo as narrow a slice of the product as you can that addresses their priorities and needs. Because to your point, they may feel like, "Why do we need all this stuff?”
Speaker
Lenny Rachitsky
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

02 / recommendation

Now if you need something a bit more integrated and it's a far more technical solution, what I'd highly recommend is do it for a month or two months, charge them for it and then use that fee that you charge them for and credit it back to them if they move forward, okay?

“Now if you need something a bit more integrated and it's a far more technical solution, what I'd highly recommend is do it for a month or two months, charge them for it and then use that fee that you charge them for and credit it back to them if they move forward, okay?”
Speaker
Jen Abel
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

04 / preference

" Most people don't check that on a daily basis. But yeah, you have Lemlist and all sorts of these enrichment tools that can give you the email, but I think the number one thing is, assume they're getting hit with hundreds of emails, how are you going to message your storyline to stand out?

“" Most people don't check that on a daily basis. But yeah, you have Lemlist and all sorts of these enrichment tools that can give you the email, but I think the number one thing is, assume they're getting hit with hundreds of emails, how are you going to message your storyline to stand out?”
Speaker
Jen Abel
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

05 / evaluation

I love how this whole process, a lot of listeners of these podcasts are product managers, product people, it just feels very product-y and product manager-y in terms of the organization and the step by step and just staying on top of all these little things.

“I love how this whole process, a lot of listeners of these podcasts are product managers, product people, it just feels very product-y and product manager-y in terms of the organization and the step by step and just staying on top of all these little things.”
Speaker
Lenny Rachitsky
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

09 / evaluation

Most people are not going to be qualified, not because necessarily you're talking to the wrong person, because if you're an enterprise executive or enterprise account executive, your job is to know who to talk to, okay?

“Most people are not going to be qualified, not because necessarily you're talking to the wrong person, because if you're an enterprise executive or enterprise account executive, your job is to know who to talk to, okay?”
Speaker
Jen Abel
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

14 / belief

Totally. And I think I also know there's a lot of folks in account management whose job is to service and expand and upsell and they just take on the title of FDE, so they're just another salesperson.

“Totally. And I think I also know there's a lot of folks in account management whose job is to service and expand and upsell and they just take on the title of FDE, so they're just another salesperson.”
Speaker
Jen Abel
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

16 / recommendation

Try to hold out on talking about pricing until post-demo because they might assume, "Oh, this is three times what I'm spending," and not know why it's three times.

“Try to hold out on talking about pricing until post-demo because they might assume, "Oh, this is three times what I'm spending," and not know why it's three times.”
Speaker
Jen Abel
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

18 / evaluation

Now, if they're this far along, if they're really concerned about pricing, they would've brought it up by now. So these are the little cues like, "Okay, I think I could probably push them a little bit here or go a little bit further.

“Now, if they're this far along, if they're really concerned about pricing, they would've brought it up by now. So these are the little cues like, "Okay, I think I could probably push them a little bit here or go a little bit further.”
Speaker
Jen Abel
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

20 / evaluation

Amazing. I love just how much alpha, not only you're sharing with us. It feels like the theme of this is alpha, just like the alpha we're getting from this conversation.

“Amazing. I love just how much alpha, not only you're sharing with us. It feels like the theme of this is alpha, just like the alpha we're getting from this conversation.”
Speaker
Lenny Rachitsky
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

22 / recommendation

You want to pitch them two or three sentences in a text or an email or at a conference. And the key is to focus on the alpha, what your product will unlock for them.

“You want to pitch them two or three sentences in a text or an email or at a conference. And the key is to focus on the alpha, what your product will unlock for them.”
Speaker
Lenny Rachitsky
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

23 / evaluation

Because now all of a sudden, this tight frame, this tight narrative you've just crafted and spent all this time with just gets thrown out the door because it's like, "Oh, well, I wouldn't use that.

“Because now all of a sudden, this tight frame, this tight narrative you've just crafted and spent all this time with just gets thrown out the door because it's like, "Oh, well, I wouldn't use that.”
Speaker
Jen Abel
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

24 / evaluation

It's actually called the pincer model, which is start at the very, very top, find that floor and work in between that, okay? So these are the two layers you want to be targeting in landing that meeting, because if you go any further than that, you risk, they're not going to be able to communicate your storyline.

“It's actually called the pincer model, which is start at the very, very top, find that floor and work in between that, okay? So these are the two layers you want to be targeting in landing that meeting, because if you go any further than that, you risk, they're not going to be able to communicate your storyline.”
Speaker
Jen Abel
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

25 / recommendation

They will not be vulnerable. They might assume it's being recorded because I think everyone operates under that assumption right now, but for the benefit of yourself, do not have a recorder present.

“They will not be vulnerable. They might assume it's being recorded because I think everyone operates under that assumption right now, but for the benefit of yourself, do not have a recorder present.”
Speaker
Jen Abel
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast
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