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Mark Zuckerberg

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01 / prediction

They feel more alone a lot of the time than they would like. So I think a lot of these things — things that today might have a little bit of stigma around them — over time, we'll find the vocabulary as a society to articulate why they are valuable, why the people who are doing them are rational for doing it, and how it is actually adding value to their lives.

“They feel more alone a lot of the time than they would like. So I think a lot of these things — things that today might have a little bit of stigma around them — over time, we'll find the vocabulary as a society to articulate why they are valuable, why the people who are doing them are rational for doing it, and how it is actually adding value to their lives.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

03 / belief

We need to get to the point where the average quality of the hypotheses that the AI is generating is better than all the things above the line that we’re actually able to test that the best humans on the team have been able to do, before it will even be marginally useful for it. We'll get there I think pretty quickly.

“We need to get to the point where the average quality of the hypotheses that the AI is generating is better than all the things above the line that we’re actually able to test that the best humans on the team have been able to do, before it will even be marginally useful for it. We'll get there I think pretty quickly.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

04 / belief

Being able to mix that in with the right personalization is going to lead toward a product experience where… If you fast-forward a few years, I think we're just going to be talking to AI throughout the day about different things we're wondering about.

“Being able to mix that in with the right personalization is going to lead toward a product experience where… If you fast-forward a few years, I think we're just going to be talking to AI throughout the day about different things we're wondering about.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

06 / belief

My view on this is that he's the President of the United States. Our default, as an American company, should be to try to have a productive relationship with whoever is running the government.

“My view on this is that he's the President of the United States. Our default, as an American company, should be to try to have a productive relationship with whoever is running the government.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

08 / commitment

For that, I'm sure we'll end up having a premium service. But I think our basic values on this are that we want to serve as many people in the world as possible.

“For that, I'm sure we'll end up having a premium service. But I think our basic values on this are that we want to serve as many people in the world as possible.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

12 / recommendation

I'm sure there will continue to be debates around this. But if you’re spending many billions of dollars training these models, I think asking the other companies — the huge ones that are similar in size and can easily afford to have a relationship with us — to talk to us before they use it seems like a pretty reasonable thing.

“I'm sure there will continue to be debates around this. But if you’re spending many billions of dollars training these models, I think asking the other companies — the huge ones that are similar in size and can easily afford to have a relationship with us — to talk to us before they use it seems like a pretty reasonable thing.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

13 / evaluation

This is the beauty of distillation. It's one of the things that I think has really emerged as a very powerful technique over the last year, since the last time we sat down.

“This is the beauty of distillation. It's one of the things that I think has really emerged as a very powerful technique over the last year, since the last time we sat down.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

14 / preference

If two of us are physically together and we have a third friend who’s hologramming in, they can participate too. But in that world too — just as you don't want your physical space to be cluttered because it wears on you psychologically — I don't think people are going to want their digital-physical space to feel that way either.

“If two of us are physically together and we have a third friend who’s hologramming in, they can participate too. But in that world too — just as you don't want your physical space to be cluttered because it wears on you psychologically — I don't think people are going to want their digital-physical space to feel that way either.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

15 / prediction

In general, the prediction that this would be the year open source generally overtakes closed source as the most used models out there, I think that's generally on track to be true.

“In general, the prediction that this would be the year open source generally overtakes closed source as the most used models out there, I think that's generally on track to be true.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

16 / prediction

Over time, Android has just gotten more and more closed. So if you're us, you need to worry that if we stop pushing the industry in this direction, all these other people… Maybe they’re only really doing it because they're trying to compete with us and the direction we’re pushing things.

“Over time, Android has just gotten more and more closed. So if you're us, you need to worry that if we stop pushing the industry in this direction, all these other people… Maybe they’re only really doing it because they're trying to compete with us and the direction we’re pushing things.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

18 / belief

I remember calling Alex Himel, the guy who runs the product group, running into him and I'm like, hey, I think we should probably pivot this and make it so that Meta AI is the primary feature of it.

“I remember calling Alex Himel, the guy who runs the product group, running into him and I'm like, hey, I think we should probably pivot this and make it so that Meta AI is the primary feature of it.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Acquired

19 / preference

I started Facebook in school, came out to Silicon Valley with Dustin and a handful of people working on it at the time, and we did that because Silicon Valley is where all the startups came from.

“I started Facebook in school, came out to Silicon Valley with Dustin and a handful of people working on it at the time, and we did that because Silicon Valley is where all the startups came from.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Acquired

20 / preference

I think what you ideally have is glasses and through the glasses there's one part of it where the glasses can see what you see and they can hear what you hear, and in doing so they can be kind of the perfect AI assistant for you because they have context on what you're doing.

“I think what you ideally have is glasses and through the glasses there's one part of it where the glasses can see what you see and they can hear what you hear, and in doing so they can be kind of the perfect AI assistant for you because they have context on what you're doing.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Acquired

21 / belief

I think what you ideally have is glasses and through the glasses there's one part of it where the glasses can see what you see and they can hear what you hear, and in doing so they can be kind of the perfect AI assistant for you because they have context on what you're doing.

“I think what you ideally have is glasses and through the glasses there's one part of it where the glasses can see what you see and they can hear what you hear, and in doing so they can be kind of the perfect AI assistant for you because they have context on what you're doing.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Acquired

24 / belief

I think there's something to Jensen's original sentiment, which is that the entrepreneurial journey is very challenging, especially the early days when you're running a startup and there's the sense that what you're doing could just die at any moment and the volatility everything is just getting thrashed so much.

“I think there's something to Jensen's original sentiment, which is that the entrepreneurial journey is very challenging, especially the early days when you're running a startup and there's the sense that what you're doing could just die at any moment and the volatility everything is just getting thrashed so much.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Acquired

25 / belief

I think that there's the recency bias, and probably almost everyone here has an iPhone and I think that because of the recency bias, there's sort of this view that's like, oh no, this is just the superior way to do things, but I don't actually think that's a given.

“I think that there's the recency bias, and probably almost everyone here has an iPhone and I think that because of the recency bias, there's sort of this view that's like, oh no, this is just the superior way to do things, but I don't actually think that's a given.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Acquired

26 / belief

We want to make sure that we have access to a leading AI model, right, I think, just like we want to build the hardware so that we can build the best social experiences for the next 20 years.

“We want to make sure that we have access to a leading AI model, right, I think, just like we want to build the hardware so that we can build the best social experiences for the next 20 years.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Acquired

27 / belief

You've got to take this offer, because I just wasn't in a place where I had the sophistication to basically articulate a lot of the stuff around where we were going longer term. It probably wasn't super confidence-inspiring to them when I was like, "hey, I think we should turn this down because we're going to do this”.

“You've got to take this offer, because I just wasn't in a place where I had the sophistication to basically articulate a lot of the stuff around where we were going longer term. It probably wasn't super confidence-inspiring to them when I was like, "hey, I think we should turn this down because we're going to do this”.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Acquired

28 / belief

I think we've sort of found our footing on what the principles are, where we think we need to improve stuff, but where people make allegations about the impact of the tech industry or our company which are just not founded in any fact that I think we should push back on harder.

“I think we've sort of found our footing on what the principles are, where we think we need to improve stuff, but where people make allegations about the impact of the tech industry or our company which are just not founded in any fact that I think we should push back on harder.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Acquired

29 / prediction

I think if you just do the latter, then I think you just don't have enough conviction to see through hard things, and if you just do the former, then you probably don't get to product/market fit or optimize what you do because you're not focused enough on your customers.

“I think if you just do the latter, then I think you just don't have enough conviction to see through hard things, and if you just do the former, then you probably don't get to product/market fit or optimize what you do because you're not focused enough on your customers.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Acquired

30 / preference

I think one of the things that I've always been pretty careful about is I actually want a lot of the people on our management team, it's like split mostly people running either these big product groups who come up through different technical pathways of the company, and I think that there's like a balance.

“I think one of the things that I've always been pretty careful about is I actually want a lot of the people on our management team, it's like split mostly people running either these big product groups who come up through different technical pathways of the company, and I think that there's like a balance.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Acquired

31 / commitment

We don't ship things that we think are bad, but we also want to make sure that we're shipping things that are early enough that we can get good feedback to see what they're going to be most used for.

“We don't ship things that we think are bad, but we also want to make sure that we're shipping things that are early enough that we can get good feedback to see what they're going to be most used for.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Acquired

32 / evaluation

Then you need to figure out well, how do you give yourself the competence to actually go do that? That's where I think being a strong technology company comes in, because a lot of companies think about themselves too narrowly in terms of, okay, well, we're this one thing, and the reason why we can build all these things is because we have a really strong technology foundation.

“Then you need to figure out well, how do you give yourself the competence to actually go do that? That's where I think being a strong technology company comes in, because a lot of companies think about themselves too narrowly in terms of, okay, well, we're this one thing, and the reason why we can build all these things is because we have a really strong technology foundation.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Acquired

33 / evaluation

It's a good name, you know, finding good short names...this actually was a thing that we talked about for a while because it was pretty clear that Facebook is continuing to grow in importance in the world, which I think a lot of people don't appreciate and it's kind of mind-boggling at the scale that it's at.

“It's a good name, you know, finding good short names...this actually was a thing that we talked about for a while because it was pretty clear that Facebook is continuing to grow in importance in the world, which I think a lot of people don't appreciate and it's kind of mind-boggling at the scale that it's at.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Acquired

34 / prediction

If you look at the different generations of computing, PCs, mobile, they've all had sort of a closed, integrated version and an open version. And the thing that I think there's just a ton of 'recency bias' around is because iPhone basically won.

“If you look at the different generations of computing, PCs, mobile, they've all had sort of a closed, integrated version and an open version. And the thing that I think there's just a ton of 'recency bias' around is because iPhone basically won.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Acquired

35 / preference

For us, I think that there are a lot of conversations that we have internally where you're almost at the line of being embarrassed about what you put out, because you want to put stuff out early enough so you can get good feedback.

“For us, I think that there are a lot of conversations that we have internally where you're almost at the line of being embarrassed about what you put out, because you want to put stuff out early enough so you can get good feedback.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Acquired

36 / prediction

When they tell us we can't ship certain products, that way people use the things less or like them less, and it's hard to exactly estimate it. But I think we might be twice as profitable if we own the platform or something.

“When they tell us we can't ship certain products, that way people use the things less or like them less, and it's hard to exactly estimate it. But I think we might be twice as profitable if we own the platform or something.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Acquired

37 / prediction

You basically build a native shell and you build this web-based platform in it and we'll be able to just update our apps every day and we'll ship one thing once and we'll update our apps across android and iPhone and Blackberry and Windows mobile and all the stuff that existed at the time because it hadn't gotten consolidated yet and, um, we're that's going to be that's.

“You basically build a native shell and you build this web-based platform in it and we'll be able to just update our apps every day and we'll ship one thing once and we'll update our apps across android and iPhone and Blackberry and Windows mobile and all the stuff that existed at the time because it hadn't gotten consolidated yet and, um, we're that's going to be that's.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Acquired

39 / evaluation

” Actually, most of the times where we make some decision that ends up seeming good is because we messed something up before and just didn't want to repeat the mistake.

“” Actually, most of the times where we make some decision that ends up seeming good is because we messed something up before and just didn't want to repeat the mistake.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

40 / prediction

I think that that will shift from something that feels more like a chatbot, where you ask a question and it formulates an answer, to things where you're giving it more complicated tasks and then it goes away and does them.

“I think that that will shift from something that feels more like a chatbot, where you ask a question and it formulates an answer, to things where you're giving it more complicated tasks and then it goes away and does them.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

41 / belief

We would hope that that'll be the case. But I think that at each point, when you're building software there's a ton of stuff that you can do with software but then at some level you're constrained by the chips that it's running on.

“We would hope that that'll be the case. But I think that at each point, when you're building software there's a ton of stuff that you can do with software but then at some level you're constrained by the chips that it's running on.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

45 / belief

If you take the security one that I was talking about, I think someone with a weaker AI trying to hack into a system that is protected by a stronger AI will succeed less.

“If you take the security one that I was talking about, I think someone with a weaker AI trying to hack into a system that is protected by a stronger AI will succeed less.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

47 / belief

I think that a world where AI is very widely deployed, in a way where it's gotten hardened progressively over time, is one where all the different systems will be in check in a way.

“I think that a world where AI is very widely deployed, in a way where it's gotten hardened progressively over time, is one where all the different systems will be in check in a way.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

52 / belief

I think people do it but I don't think this is something that can be quite as magical as just getting to a level of AI, getting a bunch of capital and putting it in, and then all of a sudden the models are just going to… You do hit different bottlenecks along the way.

“I think people do it but I don't think this is something that can be quite as magical as just getting to a level of AI, getting a bunch of capital and putting it in, and then all of a sudden the models are just going to… You do hit different bottlenecks along the way.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

55 / evaluation

I think one lesson of technology is that you want to move things from the physical constraint realm into software as much as possible because software is so much easier to build and evolve.

“I think one lesson of technology is that you want to move things from the physical constraint realm into software as much as possible because software is so much easier to build and evolve.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

56 / prediction

I assume that as we release bigger and bigger models, that will become a bigger thing. It's not the main thing that we're doing, but I think if those companies are going to be selling our models it just makes sense that we should share the upside of that somehow.

“I assume that as we release bigger and bigger models, that will become a bigger thing. It's not the main thing that we're doing, but I think if those companies are going to be selling our models it just makes sense that we should share the upside of that somehow.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

57 / evaluation

Even when we were putting together the business case for investing a $100 billion in AI or some huge amount in the metaverse, we have plans that I think made it pretty clear that if our stuff works, it'll be a good investment.

“Even when we were putting together the business case for investing a $100 billion in AI or some huge amount in the metaverse, we have plans that I think made it pretty clear that if our stuff works, it'll be a good investment.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

58 / evaluation

I think that helps you then hone your intuition for what you want to try to train into the next version of the model itself. That makes it more general because obviously for anything that you're hand-coding you can unlock some use cases, but it's just inherently brittle and non-general.

“I think that helps you then hone your intuition for what you want to try to train into the next version of the model itself. That makes it more general because obviously for anything that you're hand-coding you can unlock some use cases, but it's just inherently brittle and non-general.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

59 / commitment

At that point we started a second group, the gen AI group, with the goal of bringing that stuff into our products and building leading foundation models that would power all these different products.

“At that point we started a second group, the gen AI group, with the goal of bringing that stuff into our products and building leading foundation models that would power all these different products.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

60 / preference

I like understanding what's going on with people and the dynamics between people. So I think if I sold this company, I'd just go build another company like this and I kind of like the one I have.

“I like understanding what's going on with people and the dynamics between people. So I think if I sold this company, I'd just go build another company like this and I kind of like the one I have.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

61 / commitment

We built two, I think 22,000 or 24,000 clusters that are the single clusters that we have for training the big models, obviously across a lot of the stuff that we do.

“We built two, I think 22,000 or 24,000 clusters that are the single clusters that we have for training the big models, obviously across a lot of the stuff that we do.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

62 / evaluation

The current incarnation of all this stuff feels like it's going in a direction where intelligence can be pretty separated from consciousness, agency, and things like that, which I think just makes it a super valuable tool.

“The current incarnation of all this stuff feels like it's going in a direction where intelligence can be pretty separated from consciousness, agency, and things like that, which I think just makes it a super valuable tool.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

63 / prediction

For where it is right now in training, it is already at around 85 MMLU and we expect that it's going to have leading benchmarks on a bunch of the benchmarks.

“For where it is right now in training, it is already at around 85 MMLU and we expect that it's going to have leading benchmarks on a bunch of the benchmarks.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

64 / belief

In a lot of game environments, this could be fine, but games tend to have their own style where you almost want to fit more with the aesthetic style of the game. But I think for doing meetings, one of the things that we get a lot of feedback on Workrooms where people are pretty blown away by the experience and this feeling that you can be remote but feel like you’re physically there around a table with people, but then we get some feedback that people have a hard time with the fact that the avatars are so expressive and don’t feel as realistic in that environment.

“In a lot of game environments, this could be fine, but games tend to have their own style where you almost want to fit more with the aesthetic style of the game. But I think for doing meetings, one of the things that we get a lot of feedback on Workrooms where people are pretty blown away by the experience and this feeling that you can be remote but feel like you’re physically there around a table with people, but then we get some feedback that people have a hard time with the fact that the avatars are so expressive and don’t feel as realistic in that environment.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

65 / evaluation

Like you said, if you move your eyebrows a millimeter, that really changes the expression and what you’re emoting whereas moving your arm like an inch probably doesn’t matter quite as much.

“Like you said, if you move your eyebrows a millimeter, that really changes the expression and what you’re emoting whereas moving your arm like an inch probably doesn’t matter quite as much.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

66 / evaluation

Yeah, we’ve been able to get way further on hand recognition in a shorter period of time than I expected, so that’s been pretty cool. I don’t know, did you see the demo experience that we built around?

“Yeah, we’ve been able to get way further on hand recognition in a shorter period of time than I expected, so that’s been pretty cool. I don’t know, did you see the demo experience that we built around?”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

67 / evaluation

I think, part of what has been fun, and we talked about this a bit, but we’ve gotten some real cultural figures to play a bunch of these folks and be the embodiment in the avatar of them.

“I think, part of what has been fun, and we talked about this a bit, but we’ve gotten some real cultural figures to play a bunch of these folks and be the embodiment in the avatar of them.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

68 / evaluation

I mean, there are content policies and things like that in terms of what people are allowed to create, but I mean, a lot of the rules around physical… I think we try to have a society that is as free as possible, meaning that people can do as much of what they want unless you’re going to do damage to other people and infringe on their rights.

“I mean, there are content policies and things like that in terms of what people are allowed to create, but I mean, a lot of the rules around physical… I think we try to have a society that is as free as possible, meaning that people can do as much of what they want unless you’re going to do damage to other people and infringe on their rights.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

69 / prediction

Another version of this is how this intersects with AIs because one of the things that we’re really focused on is we want the world to evolve in a way where there isn’t a single AI super intelligence, but where a lot of people are empowered by having AI tools to do their jobs and make their lives better.

“Another version of this is how this intersects with AIs because one of the things that we’re really focused on is we want the world to evolve in a way where there isn’t a single AI super intelligence, but where a lot of people are empowered by having AI tools to do their jobs and make their lives better.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

70 / preference

Yeah, I mean part of what we’re trying to do with the initial AI’s launch is having a diversity of different use cases just so that people can try different things because I don’t know what’s going to work.

“Yeah, I mean part of what we’re trying to do with the initial AI’s launch is having a diversity of different use cases just so that people can try different things because I don’t know what’s going to work.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

71 / preference

I think we’d want to make that work across all the messaging platforms, WhatsApp, and Messenger, and Instagram Direct. But there’s certainly a version of that where if you could have an avatar version of yourself in the metaverse that people can interact with, and you could define that sort of an AI version where people know that they’re interacting with an AI, that it’s not the physical version of you, but maybe that AI, even if they know it’s an AI, is the next best thing because they’re probably not going to necessarily all get to interact with you directly.

“I think we’d want to make that work across all the messaging platforms, WhatsApp, and Messenger, and Instagram Direct. But there’s certainly a version of that where if you could have an avatar version of yourself in the metaverse that people can interact with, and you could define that sort of an AI version where people know that they’re interacting with an AI, that it’s not the physical version of you, but maybe that AI, even if they know it’s an AI, is the next best thing because they’re probably not going to necessarily all get to interact with you directly.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

72 / prediction

It’s like you access the digital world through a screen and maybe it’s a small screen that you carry around or it’s a bigger screen when you sit down at your desk and strap in for a long session, but they’re kind of fundamentally divorced and disconnected. And I think part of what this technology is going to do is bring those together into a single coherent experience of what the modern real world is, which is, it’s got to be physical because we’re physical beings.

“It’s like you access the digital world through a screen and maybe it’s a small screen that you carry around or it’s a bigger screen when you sit down at your desk and strap in for a long session, but they’re kind of fundamentally divorced and disconnected. And I think part of what this technology is going to do is bring those together into a single coherent experience of what the modern real world is, which is, it’s got to be physical because we’re physical beings.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

73 / evaluation

This gets to the core of what the vision around virtual and augmented reality is, of delivering a sense of presence as if you’re there together no matter where you actually are in the world. This experience I think is a good embodiment of that, where we’re in two completely different states halfway across the country, and it looks like you’re just sitting right in front of me.

“This gets to the core of what the vision around virtual and augmented reality is, of delivering a sense of presence as if you’re there together no matter where you actually are in the world. This experience I think is a good embodiment of that, where we’re in two completely different states halfway across the country, and it looks like you’re just sitting right in front of me.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

74 / commitment

I think just like we had a debate around Llama 2 and open sourcing it, I think we’ll need to have a similar debate and process to red team this and make sure that this is safe.

“I think just like we had a debate around Llama 2 and open sourcing it, I think we’ll need to have a similar debate and process to red team this and make sure that this is safe.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

75 / belief

I think over the longer term potentially climate change is more of an existential issue. But in terms of people’s lives today, I think the exploding costs from these areas is such a profound issue, and the trend is so out of control.

“I think over the longer term potentially climate change is more of an existential issue. But in terms of people’s lives today, I think the exploding costs from these areas is such a profound issue, and the trend is so out of control.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

76 / belief

I think you used the phrase “cost disease”when referring to the cost explosion of things like healthcare and education, student debt, and rent.

“I think you used the phrase “cost disease”when referring to the cost explosion of things like healthcare and education, student debt, and rent.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

77 / recommendation

Where I think, especially in a lot of these fields — in philanthropy, I think there are a lot of potential issues where it’s easy to give money to something and feel like you’re doing good because you probably are doing some good but lack the discipline to say, “am I doing the most good that I can?

“Where I think, especially in a lot of these fields — in philanthropy, I think there are a lot of potential issues where it’s easy to give money to something and feel like you’re doing good because you probably are doing some good but lack the discipline to say, “am I doing the most good that I can?”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
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78 / evaluation

Your example on the rates of poverty going down I think is an interesting one in this because what a lot of people don’t particularly wanna talk about these days is that most of the benefit of people coming out of poverty has happened in China, and in some places in the world poverty has actually increased.

“Your example on the rates of poverty going down I think is an interesting one in this because what a lot of people don’t particularly wanna talk about these days is that most of the benefit of people coming out of poverty has happened in China, and in some places in the world poverty has actually increased.”
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Mark Zuckerberg
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Conversations with Tyler

79 / commitment

I mean, obviously, there’s minor execution things that you try to improve along the way. But I want to make sure that we have an awareness that fundamentally these are problems that we’re gonna be working on for 10 or 20 years and not — I think a lot of these things just a consistency of approach, and building trust is more important than constantly evaluating or potentially thrashing.

“I mean, obviously, there’s minor execution things that you try to improve along the way. But I want to make sure that we have an awareness that fundamentally these are problems that we’re gonna be working on for 10 or 20 years and not — I think a lot of these things just a consistency of approach, and building trust is more important than constantly evaluating or potentially thrashing.”
Speaker
Mark Zuckerberg
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler
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