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Mark Zuckerberg: belief

18 Apr 2024 Dwarkesh Podcast Mark Zuckerberg — Llama 3, $10B models, Caesar Augustus, & 1 GW datacenters

“Just to put this in perspective, I think a gigawatt would be the size of a meaningful nuclear power plant only going towards training a model.”

— Mark Zuckerberg

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Mark Zuckerberg
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belief
Recorded
18 Apr 2024
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

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…That's fundamentally money-bottlenecked in the limit? If you had $1 trillion… I think it’s time. It depends on how far the exponential curves go. Right now a lot of data centers are on the order of 50 megawatts or 100MW, or a big one might be 150MW. Take a whole data center and fill it up with all the stuff that you need to do for training and you build the biggest cluster you can. I think a bunch of companies are running at stuff like that. But when you start getting into building a data center that's like 300MW or 500MW or 1 GW, no one has built a 1GW data center yet. I think it will happen. This is only a matter of time but it's not going to be next year. Some of these things will take some number of years to build out. Just to put this in perspective, I think a gigawatt would be the size of a meaningful nuclear power plant only going towards training a model. Didn't Amazon do this? They have a 950MW–…

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