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29 Apr 2025 Dwarkesh Podcast Mark Zuckerberg — AI will write most Meta code in 18 months
“I think we will continue building that stuff out, and that has been net positive.”
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- 29 Apr 2025
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…You've spoken out about how you've rethought some of the ways in which you engage and defer to the government, in terms of moderation stuff in the past. How are you thinking about AI governance? Because if AI is as powerful as we think it might be, the government will want to get involved. What is the most productive approach to take there, and what should the government be thinking about? I guess in the past, most of the comments that I made were in the context of content moderation. It's been an interesting journey over the last 10 years on this. It's obviously been an interesting time in history. There have been novel questions raised about online content moderation. Some of those have led to productive new systems getting built, like our AI systems to detect nation-states trying to interfere in each other's elections. I think we will continue building that stuff out, and that has been net positive. With some other stuff, we went down some bad paths. I just think the fact-checking thing was not as effective as Community Notes because it's not an internet-scale solution. There weren't enough fact-checkers, and people didn't trust the specific fact-checkers. You want a more robust system. So I think what we got with Community Notes is the right one on that. But my point on this was more that historically, I probably deferred a little too much to either the media and their critiques, or to the government, on things that they did not really have authority over. But just as like a central figure, I think we tried to build systems where maybe we wouldn't have to make all of the content moderation decisions ourselves or something. I guess part of the growth process over the last 10 years is realizing, “Okay, we're a meaningful company. We need to own the decisions that we need to make. We should listen to feedback from people, but we shouldn't defer too much to people who do not actually have authority over this. Because at the end of the day, we're in the seat, and we need to own the decisions that we make.” It's been a maturation process, and in some ways painful, but I think we're probably a better company for it. Will tariffs increase the cost of building data centers in the US and shift buildouts to Europe and Asia?…
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