01 / recommendation
Likes IPL.
“It’s awesome. I love the IPL. It’s so compelling. They took Cricket which was deader than baseball, added insane fireworks, crazy crowds, and crazy rules.”
- Speaker
- David Rosenthal
- Episode
- The NBA
- Publisher
- Acquired
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57 published records
01 / recommendation
“It’s awesome. I love the IPL. It’s so compelling. They took Cricket which was deader than baseball, added insane fireworks, crazy crowds, and crazy rules.”
02 / belief
“I didn't even think about this growing up. I think now, more so, these teams have their hockey and basketball teams.”
03 / uncertainty
“Don’t expose that I don’t know enough about players today to have an informed conversation with you here.”
04 / belief
“Halfway in, we realized that the story of Jordan is really a part of the Nike story, and we want to cover that another time.”
05 / commitment
“The average team valuation has grown a staggering 6X in the last decade, which, talk about an amazing investment return just on its own. Today, we will try and understand all the factors that have made that.”
06 / belief
“I think the only NBA arenas that are not one of these pure commodities are pyramid schemes and casinos.”
07 / belief
“Exactly. That leaves the local TV rights for any given team, which I think there are about a thousand games across all the teams that are not sold as part of the national package—82 games they all play each other.”
08 / belief
“Before last fall, I think probably the strategy of the CBA—set by both Yao and the party—was to partner with the NBA.”
09 / belief
“On the back of that, the NBA opened up offices in (I think) 14 countries around the world to start essentially two functions.”
10 / belief
“I really wonder, how does the NBA message what that real estate is worth? I think individual teams sell that, not the NBA at large.”
11 / belief
“I think he also, at least once, if not multiple times in his career, averaged over 50 points a game for the entire season.”
12 / belief
“Not to mention they are the only sports team to responsibly implement a way to play their sport and run their business (I think) profitably during this era, in executing really well on the Disney bubble.”
13 / belief
“I think he's still pretty pissed. The Rockets had the first pick in the 1984 draft.”
14 / evaluation
“In 2009, finally, the NBA was like, okay, we have to renegotiate this and it doesn't matter how much.”
15 / belief
“I think the power there is a cornered resource where they have the best players that play in the league.”
16 / belief
“NBA2K is—I believe by a pretty significant margin—the most streamed sports video game on Twitch.”
17 / belief
“I think in 1970, they went and got Portland, Cleveland, and Buffalo Braves, which is another Buffalo team that moved that's now the LA Clippers.”
18 / belief
“The AFC, I think that's right. These plucky entrepreneurial guys who started the ABA go around to a bunch of people and a bunch of cities and say, hey, our business plan is we're going to start a rival league to the NBA.”
19 / observation
“You couldn't move. The only way you could move was by passing the ball. There was also no set number of players on either side.”
20 / observation
“Over the years, they’ve decided that the way to do that is by creating the most competitive situation possible across the whole league and by doing this really unbelievably large revenue share.”
21 / belief
“I think 1966–1968 is when they really went crazy and did like an expansion of five teams all at once.”
22 / uncertainty
“What’s really interesting that we don’t know is whether the League Pass revenue is part of that with the Turner deal or if it’s separate.”
23 / belief
“I'm sure that the Lakers—in terms of ad sales, ticket sales, local TV deals, I think we're starting at this point in time—were able to monetize that at probably equal if not more than what they were paying Wilt.”
24 / uncertainty
“I don’t know what happened with the Tencent streaming deal, but I believed that might have been paused or at least delayed as well.”
25 / belief
“I think that probably stands out as a third exception, but we’ll have to see over time.”
26 / belief
“We're going to talk a bunch more about that in a minute. But then, probably most importantly, I think the last element of this is that the current and former NBA athletes have wealth at a level and have become entrepreneurs and business people.”
27 / belief
“You’ve got Berkeley’s Capital One, Chase, Pfizer, Golden One, Rocket Mortgage, Scotia Bank—I think I said that right—TV Garden, it goes on.”
28 / belief
“When you talk about the numerical—just to paint some order of magnitude stuff for people—even in the 80s—I think 1983—the salary cap for a team was something like $3.”
29 / belief
“I think all of the teams that we’ve talked about up to this point put them in those really nice places to lean hard into the value capture here in the next several years.”
30 / belief
“I think the last thing I would say is, based on valuations, a lot of this stuff has to go right in order to justify some of the prices that these owners have paid.”
31 / belief
“Also in 1983, right before Stern took over, they negotiated a new TV deal with ABC that I believe was about $20 million a year in terms of payments for national broadcast rights to the NBA as a whole.”
32 / belief
“The other big one (I think)—I can’t figure out if this was intentional or not—the NBA franchises have managed to attract a younger and much more tech- and business-savvy group of owners.”
33 / belief
“I think the way that this really goes off the rails, which was hard to see before doing the episode, but could be a real scenario is China becomes a disaster scenario here.”
34 / belief
“Every other sports league professional and collegiate (I think) that has not taken a bubble approach has had Coronavirus cases, which duh.”
35 / belief
“We're going to get into it. It was his agent I believe who pushed him to say, before you make a decision, talk to these guys out in Oregon, these Nike guys.”
36 / belief
“The saddest and the worst example of this was, of course, Len Bias, the hugely, hugely talented college basketball player drafted in the first pick of the 1986 draft, I believe by the Boston Celtics.”
37 / belief
“Silver (of course) was Stern's deputy, but I think he also started as a lawyer before joining the NBA.”
38 / belief
“I think that’s what’s interesting about doing this episode. I’ve come to realize, yes, just like with Facebook and social networks and lots of other businesses we cover on this show, the US audience has the NBA monetizes at a much higher rate than the international audience right now.”
39 / belief
“When Jordan finally retired for the second or third time with the Wizards in 2003—I think when he finally retired for good—there was definitely a bit of a hangover after that, so ratings dropped.”
40 / belief
“Obviously, well, anybody who owns a majority of an NBA team is a billionaire. Jordan, of course, (I think) owns about 80% of the Charlotte Hornets.”
41 / belief
“I think the important thing to note here—this is really where Stern stayed too long—is this was part of his strategy of empowering the players, making them the stars.”
42 / belief
“I think inflation-adjusted, it's like $2 million or so, so nowhere near the deals today.”
43 / commitment
“I wasn't going to bust this out, but this is just a great quote from an Atlantic article that we will link in the show notes.”
44 / uncertainty
“I don’t know, I’m sure you can make arguments on both sides, but it feels to me like it’s pretty fair with the players.”
45 / belief
“Debatable. I think some teams are profitable and some teams are losing money, but, yeah.”
46 / commitment
“What we will talk a little bit about, though, Ben, what you were saying at the top of the show, part of our initial inspiration for doing this was wanting to tell the Jordan Brand story and realizing that that's really totally tied up in the Nike story.”
47 / belief
“I think President Obama will give him the Presidential Medal of Freedom later in life.”
48 / prediction
“Because if you look at it this way, there’s an arbitrage opportunity available for the network to go and buy the rights to broadcast something at some price because they feel that they can get more advertising dollars out of those rights than anybody else because of some way that they’re uniquely positioned.”
49 / prediction
“And the NFL (of course) still has the highest TV ratings. But this doesn’t matter because the future and younger generations don’t watch TV, aren’t going to consume sports on DIRECTV.”
50 / evaluation
“I agree and totally think it’s the right thing morally and in terms of being a leader or even just not a laggard to do.”
51 / prediction
“He didn’t create it, but in 1905—I’m dead serious here—Teddy Roosevelt pressured colleges to create the NCAA to regulate football because too many people were getting hurt and dying playing football.”
52 / prediction
“I think maybe a maximum of eight teams at this point. They just kept it for a single year because whoever—I assumed the Knickerbockers—the teams were in the largest geos basically said, we're not doing this thing.”
53 / evaluation
“Totally, and it wasn't until after the merger, I think that the three-point contest would be added in some of the other stuff around All-Star Weekend, but that was so innovative because it was the first sports entertainment content that wasn't a game.”
54 / evaluation
“Especially because—as we'll get into—while they make astronomical sums in salary from playing more than any other sport in the world, the best of them make at least as much from all of their business outside of the court than they do on the court.”
55 / commitment
“He had a nice little return here on buying the Hornets because in 2010, he bought majority control of the club.”
56 / evaluation
“You'd get to the end of your contract and you couldn't go negotiate with other teams because your team held your rights for a year.”
57 / evaluation
“Whether it is or isn't it doesn't matter because the players—in this brilliant move—completely co-opted.”