Lex Fridman Podcast / episode intelligence
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51 published records
01 / uncertainty
“I don’t know who is the they that we’re talking about, but I believe American citizens care about America first.”
02 / belief
“I think there’s been areas of agreement, obviously real disagreement. But here’s the question to you, really.”
03 / belief
“I think you could still be National Security Advisor. Zbigniew Brzezinski sure was.”
04 / belief
“I think Radcliffe had a good way of looking at this and that he said is when you’re in the 99 yard line as a football team, you have the intention of score a goal, and what he was actually pointing to is let’s not talk about this debate about whether Khamenei had given the order or not given the order, because Khamenei knows that if he gives an order, the US and Israeli intelligence community will pick up on that order and that will be the trigger for strikes.”
05 / belief
“I think a world without nuclear weapons, the kind of world that Reagan envisioned and others have envisioned since is really the only way we can eliminate the most devastating weapons that could end humankind.”
06 / belief
“” I think Scott’s right, that perception that there’s no way they can fight the United States of America because that’s regime ending potentially, even if we don’t intend to, that could actually happen.”
07 / belief
“I think after October 7th, that was a huge miscalculation for Khomeini, and we’ve seen the results of what’s happened to his axis of resistance through quite devastating Israeli military capabilities over the past number of months. But he has an ideology, and I think where I agree with Scott is I’m not sure if Khomeini would actually use a nuclear weapon against Israel, the United States, because I don’t think Khomeini is suicidal.”
08 / uncertainty
“Maybe they were discussing Persian poetry, I don’t know, but it’s hard to believe they weren’t discussing something.”
09 / uncertainty
“I don’t know about him, but I know Ben Shapiro, many other leaders of the Israel lobby in America celebrated the overthrow of Bashar al-Assad in Syria by Abu Mohammed al-Jilani, the leader of al-Qaeda in Iraq in Syria.”
10 / belief
“The argument today, Lex, which I think is the more interesting argument, because there are very few people left today who don’t believe that the Iranians were building the nuclear weapons capability that gave them the option to build nuclear weapons.”
11 / belief
“I think a worse war with Iran. He was entertaining the possibility of putting ground troops in there, [inaudible 02:06:29] catastrophe for this country.”
12 / belief
“I think that Iran should agree to the gold standard that 23 US allies have agreed to.”
13 / uncertainty
“I don’t know if that contributes to it, but they kind of are grounded in a different time.”
14 / belief
“At least to the degree that they’ve been able to afford to now build up a giant naval force that is capable of retaking Taiwan. And so I think the way to prevent that is not from making a bunch of threats and setting examples in other places about how tough we are, but to negotiate with the Chinese and the Taiwanese.”
15 / belief
“Hard to predict. But what I think is absolutely certain is that if Iran develops that nuclear weapon and is allowed to retain the key capabilities to do so, you’re going to see five, six countries in the Middle East, at least three, four countries in the Indo-Pacific asking for the same capability.”
16 / uncertainty
“You’re just hosting the show. I don’t know. It seems like you’re trying to be fair.”
17 / belief
“I would say that just a couple of days ago, I was watching a podcast Scott was on and he accused Trump of being an agent for Netanyahu and the Israeli government. So I think again, the accusations that the President of the United States is a foreign agent for some foreign government, I think we should just put all of that aside in any discussion and just say, President Trump makes his own decisions whether we agree with them or agree with them, but he’s not working for the FSB and he’s not working for Mossad.”
18 / belief
“Consistently, I think made it very clear during his first term, made a clear throughout his career and thus begins this process with the Iranians, which has kind of multiple tracks, but the one that Trump sees most interested in at the time is the diplomatic track, and he makes it very clear from the beginning and a sort of Oval Office remark.”
19 / belief
“I think Trump is early… I mean, it’s interesting you said that because he’s early indicators.”
20 / belief
“Now, to steelman Scott’s argument, I think there’s a legitimate argument because I actually didn’t support the withdrawal from the agreement President Trump withdrew in 2018.”
21 / belief
“Second is this quote, “Iran is not attacking Israel.” That’s quite an amazing quote, which kind of ignores, I think 50, 60 years of Iranian attacks against Israel, including suicide bombings, and missiles, and drones, and October 7th.”
22 / belief
“What I am suggesting is, there’s a package right now of sanctions that have ADA co-sponsors in the Senate across party lines. And I think Trump is using that and will use that as a sort of Damocles hanging over Putin and the Russian economy to say, “Look, if Vladimir, we either do a ceasefire or I’m going to have no choice but to have to start imposing much more punishing sanctions on you and on the Russian economy.”
23 / belief
“I think one must never rule it out because there is a scenario, for example, where the regime collapses and there’s chaos inside Iran.”
24 / belief
“” Now, I agree with Scott, going after US military bases, except in a symbolic way, suicidal.”
25 / belief
“I think an American citizen cares primarily about America. That is a fundamental belief for me.”
26 / belief
“You’re speaking to this other people that you’ve heard that somehow. They do say we, and they talk about, I would say ridiculously as if, I’ve even heard some people basically put Israel above US, and they’re American citizens.”
27 / disagreement
“Let me just step back from this because we agree on some and we disagree on a major issue.”
28 / belief
“There are a whole bunch of other scenarios we can talk about that are embedded in that, but I think if you’re a responsible person and a responsible analyst, and certainly if you’re a responsible policymaker, you got to be planning for all of these scenarios and more.”
29 / uncertainty
“I’m not a neoconservative, so I don’t know who he’s talking about, but I’m not a neoconservative.”
30 / belief
“I’m from the United States of America, unlike him, and I care about the future of this country, unlike him, who’s here to serve a foreign power and make their case at our expense.”
31 / belief
“In fact, many of the horrible policies of the United States, in my opinion, have to do with projecting World War II onto every single conflict in the world.”
32 / uncertainty
“We pulled out his nuclear program and then I don’t know how many years later, but it wasn’t too many years late.”
33 / belief
“I think the debate in America was very interesting in the ’30s where there was really a strong isolationist movement with Charles Lindbergh and Henry Ford and Father Coughlin and many.”
34 / commitment
“We want to avoid wars, we have to have serious deterrence because our enemies need to understand, we will use selective, focused, overwhelming military power when we are facing threats like an Iranian nuclear weapon.”
35 / belief
“Third is I think we have to reach agreements with all the other countries in the Middle East to say, “Hey, listen, we’re demanding zero enrichment and full dismantlement from the Iranians.”
36 / belief
“Can I just say technically, just I think, again, important for your listeners trying understand, under the JCPOA, Iran is allowed to keep a stockpile of a maximum of 300 kilograms, as I remember, of 3.”
37 / belief
“Lex, I think the best case, and something I’ve advocated for, I’ve been working on this for 22 years, is that the Iranians return to negotiations at Oman, sit down with the United States and conclude an agreement that peacefully and permanently and fully dismantles their nuclear program.”
38 / commitment
“If we want to avoid wars, we have to have serious deterrents because our enemies need to understand we will use selective and narrowly focused overwhelming military power when we are facing threats like an Iranian nuclear weapon.”
39 / observation
“I said the problem is we’re talking about nuclear stuff, which is all very complicated, and most people don’t know much about it, which is what the war party is relying on, that people just hear nuclear, afraid, and mushroom cloud and give the benefit of the doubt to the hawks.”
40 / prediction
“Who thinks that if they break out and try to start making nukes now that any hawks supporting this war will take responsibility for driving them to it.”
41 / belief
“I think, clearly his son, Don Jr’s had a lot of influence in who gets selected in these positions in the Pentagon, NSC, and Tucker Carlson has had a lot of influence.”
42 / evaluation
“The reason why they haven’t been able to cobble together an atom bomb in this 1940s technology is because they have not tried to.”
43 / evaluation
“I’m just citing the Reuters news agency saying that this proactive action by Israel caused a negative reaction by your own lights, a very negative reaction in their beginning to again enrich up to 60% uranium. That means I’m just spinning for the Ayatollah or I believe that no one ever does anything except in reaction to Israel and America, except that I’m just citing specific examples of where that’s exactly the case.”
44 / prediction
“Because they framed him for treason, so he was completely unable to engage in real diplomacy with Russia, and I bet that he’d agree with me on that one too.”
45 / prediction
“That was his words, a brain drain from Israel. That also then Hezbollah, as this is what he put it, and I agree with this, that conventional forces would have a bit more freedom of action in the region if Iran was sitting on an A-bomb.”
46 / evaluation
“” I think that he really could have, and I already said, I don’t know the details, but I believe Mark when he says that the Europeans were being intransigent on that.”
47 / evaluation
“That doesn’t mean that they are trying to get nukes. It does mean, as I already said, that they wanted to prove to the world that they know how to enrich uranium and that they have facilities buried deeply enough where, if we attack them, that would incentivize them to making nukes, and then we might be unable to stop them without going all the way toward a regime change, which they’re bluffing, basically betting, that we won’t go that far, considering how gigantic their country is and how mountainous and populous it is compared to Iraq next door.”
48 / evaluation
“Their posture has been heavily implied, “Don’t attack us and we won’t make a nuke.”
49 / evaluation
“Under the JCPOA, they shipped out every bit of their enriched uranium to France to be turned into fuel rods and then ship back into the country to be used in their reactors, and so they’re just trying to get us back in that deal. It is an illusion and I don’t know exactly what’s in this man’s mind, but it’s just not true that they’re making nuclear weapons, and it has been a lie of Benjamin Netanyahu and his Likud party regime, and for that matter, the Khatima regime of Ehud Olmert before him that this is a threat that has to be preempted when in fact it never was anything more than a latent nuclear deterrent.”
50 / evaluation
“That’s not the same as racing to the bomb. That’s why Marco Rubio says, “Never mind the intelligence,” because the intelligence says what I just said.”
51 / evaluation
“The Iranians had announced to the IAEA that we had built a new facility here, and we are going to introduce nuclear material into it within six months.”