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26 Jun 2025 Lex Fridman Podcast #473 – Iran War Debate: Nuclear Weapons, Trump, Peace, Power & the Middle East
“The reason why they haven’t been able to cobble together an atom bomb in this 1940s technology is because they have not tried to.”
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- Scott Horton
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- 26 Jun 2025
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- Lex Fridman Podcast
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…Please call me Mark. Mark. Something that Mark and I agree about is that there actually is not a threat of an aggressive first strike by Iran. I’m a little surprised to hear him say that, but I’m grateful to hear him say that. It is honest. I would advise you, you may be unfamiliar with this, but I can tell you anyone in America who drives for a living and listens to AM radio have heard claims that Iran was making nuclear weapons probably 50,000 times in the last 25 years. Over and over and over again, we hear this propaganda. They still don’t have a single atom bomb. The reason why they haven’t been able to cobble together an atom bomb in this 1940s technology is because they have not tried to. Okay, so people can just essentially flog this dead horse, pretend there’s this threat. Oh, he’s going to break out any day now. But here’s the thing about that. As the Ayatollah well knows, George W. Bush, Barack Obama, Donald Trump, Joe Biden, and now Trump again, have all vowed with all sincerity that they would bomb Iran off the face of the earth if they attempted to break out and make a nuclear weapon. Hillary Clinton, when she ran, said they’d be obliterated from the face of the earth. Barack Obama did an interview with Jeffrey Goldberg in the Atlantic in 2012, called “As President I Don’t Bluff.” And essentially the interview is him begging Jeffrey Goldberg to explain to the Israelis that he really, really, really, really means it, that he’s trying to negotiate, but if the Ayatollah breaks out for a nuke, “I’ll nuke him if I have to.” No, they never said that.…
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