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Notebook LM
“I think on sort of like the creepy side of things, I did watch a student like with her permission, of course, I watched her do her homework in Notebook LM.”
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Raiza Martin
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Steven
“One of the things that I love about Steven is he uses the product in ways where it kind of does it, but doesn't quite.”
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01 / uncertainty
I don't know if I'm, like, a super good fit with this space, but I'll try it because the people are cool.
“I don't know if I'm, like, a super good fit with this space, but I'll try it because the people are cool.”
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02 / recommendation
Likes Steven.
“One of the things that I love about Steven is he uses the product in ways where it kind of does it, but doesn't quite.”
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03 / recommendation
Mentions personal use of Notebook LM.
“I think on sort of like the creepy side of things, I did watch a student like with her permission, of course, I watched her do her homework in Notebook LM.”
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- Raiza Martin
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04 / belief
I think that's what Karpathy did, right? Like, he has now a Spotify channel called Histories of Mysteries, which is basically, like, he just took, like, interesting stuff from Wikipedia and made audio overviews out of it.
“I think that's what Karpathy did, right? Like, he has now a Spotify channel called Histories of Mysteries, which is basically, like, he just took, like, interesting stuff from Wikipedia and made audio overviews out of it.”
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05 / belief
I think at the same time, right, there are a lot of developers that are interested in using the same technology to build their own thing.
“I think at the same time, right, there are a lot of developers that are interested in using the same technology to build their own thing.”
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06 / belief
Thank you. And, you know, I think we'll just keep going in like the same way. We just keep trying, keep trying to make it better.
“Thank you. And, you know, I think we'll just keep going in like the same way. We just keep trying, keep trying to make it better.”
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07 / belief
Is it because you want to participate? So I think there's a lot there that like we can continue to unpack.
“Is it because you want to participate? So I think there's a lot there that like we can continue to unpack.”
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08 / belief
I think because we are still in the period where everyone's really excited about it, everyone's trying it.
“I think because we are still in the period where everyone's really excited about it, everyone's trying it.”
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09 / belief
I think we have been really focused, especially when we had like a much smaller team, we were really focused on like, let's push like an end to end journey together.
“I think we have been really focused, especially when we had like a much smaller team, we were really focused on like, let's push like an end to end journey together.”
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10 / belief
I think, honestly, like, our fastest way that we've been able to find out if, like, the servers are down or there's just an influx of people being, like, it says system unable to answer.
“I think, honestly, like, our fastest way that we've been able to find out if, like, the servers are down or there's just an influx of people being, like, it says system unable to answer.”
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11 / belief
Like I think like when you listen to two people talk, there's a lot of like, yeah, yeah, right.
“Like I think like when you listen to two people talk, there's a lot of like, yeah, yeah, right.”
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12 / preference
Somebody gives me a hundred slide deck, that is the format in which I'm going to read it. But I think we are now living in the era where transformations are really possible, which is, look, like I don't want to read your hundred slide deck, but I'll listen to a 16 minute audio overview on the drive home.
“Somebody gives me a hundred slide deck, that is the format in which I'm going to read it. But I think we are now living in the era where transformations are really possible, which is, look, like I don't want to read your hundred slide deck, but I'll listen to a 16 minute audio overview on the drive home.”
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13 / preference
I was like, I love that, right. And I was like, maybe there's something to be learned there because, like, people have fallen in love with the deep dive as a, as a format, as a technology, but also as just like those two personas.
“I was like, I love that, right. And I was like, maybe there's something to be learned there because, like, people have fallen in love with the deep dive as a, as a format, as a technology, but also as just like those two personas.”
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14 / observation
announcement in 23, we'd already done a lot of studies. And one of the first things that I realized was the first thing anybody ever typed was, summarize the thing.
“announcement in 23, we'd already done a lot of studies. And one of the first things that I realized was the first thing anybody ever typed was, summarize the thing.”
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15 / prediction
I think if there was anything, I wish we would have launched sooner because I wanted to learn faster.
“I think if there was anything, I wish we would have launched sooner because I wanted to learn faster.”
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16 / commitment
Occasionally, I'll try to build something on GCP over the weekend because I don't do that normally at work.
“Occasionally, I'll try to build something on GCP over the weekend because I don't do that normally at work.”
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17 / preference
Because I think contextualizing it within your life, your background, your motivations, is what really helps me build really cool things.
“Because I think contextualizing it within your life, your background, your motivations, is what really helps me build really cool things.”
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18 / preference
What do you mean? And I think there is a lot of like for product builders is like, have a strong opinion about like, what is the user supposed to do?
“What do you mean? And I think there is a lot of like for product builders is like, have a strong opinion about like, what is the user supposed to do?”
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19 / observation
I hear from Googlers all the time, especially because we launched it internally first.
“I hear from Googlers all the time, especially because we launched it internally first.”
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20 / preference
Well, you know, I like the idea of it fundamentally, but something about the UX was like, oh, this is like more disorienting than like artifacts.
“Well, you know, I like the idea of it fundamentally, but something about the UX was like, oh, this is like more disorienting than like artifacts.”
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21 / belief
I think the funniest thing was that... So my husband doesn't know, right? He doesn't know what I'm doing.
“I think the funniest thing was that... So my husband doesn't know, right? He doesn't know what I'm doing.”
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- Raiza Martin
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- Lenny's Podcast
22 / belief
" Clicked on Upload Google Doc, and maybe the last thing you had there was your resume or something. But imagine you click that and I think there's something really special about, you don't know what's going to happen.
“" Clicked on Upload Google Doc, and maybe the last thing you had there was your resume or something. But imagine you click that and I think there's something really special about, you don't know what's going to happen.”
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- Raiza Martin
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23 / commitment
" And I remember when we stood up the server, actually, one of the things I was most afraid of is, what if nobody joins? What if no people come in and want to talk to us about the thing that we built?
“" And I remember when we stood up the server, actually, one of the things I was most afraid of is, what if nobody joins? What if no people come in and want to talk to us about the thing that we built?”
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24 / preference
I mean, I love the resume ones. I think the resume ones are so delightful. And actually really adjacent to that is Google has these Q3 check-ins or quarterly check-ins where we have to write performance reviews for ourselves.
“I mean, I love the resume ones. I think the resume ones are so delightful. And actually really adjacent to that is Google has these Q3 check-ins or quarterly check-ins where we have to write performance reviews for ourselves.”
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- Raiza Martin
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- Lenny's Podcast
25 / preference
How do I go about finding the answer? And I think we've seen different approaches to this where you just put the tool out there, you study how people are using it, and I think that's a fine approach, but we try to have a little bit more of a hypothesis about what is the shape of this thing to actually get the most learning out of it.
“How do I go about finding the answer? And I think we've seen different approaches to this where you just put the tool out there, you study how people are using it, and I think that's a fine approach, but we try to have a little bit more of a hypothesis about what is the shape of this thing to actually get the most learning out of it.”
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- Raiza Martin
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- Lenny's Podcast
26 / evaluation
Alongside, the Content Studio is designed to bring out the best of that model. And I think when we listened to a lot of the early attempts that we had, it wasn't nearly this good.
“Alongside, the Content Studio is designed to bring out the best of that model. And I think when we listened to a lot of the early attempts that we had, it wasn't nearly this good.”
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- Raiza Martin
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- Lenny's Podcast
27 / prediction
The thing that I wanted to do from the get-go, which was I imagine that in the future you could have an AI editor surface, fully remixable, any input, any output. And that to me is a really powerful core nugget where if you imagine you could take anything, whether it's video, audio, your emails, your LinkedIn, your Twitter, the world of things that we care about, you have an AI interface that allows you to shape it and say, "Look out of these things, make me a blog post.
“The thing that I wanted to do from the get-go, which was I imagine that in the future you could have an AI editor surface, fully remixable, any input, any output. And that to me is a really powerful core nugget where if you imagine you could take anything, whether it's video, audio, your emails, your LinkedIn, your Twitter, the world of things that we care about, you have an AI interface that allows you to shape it and say, "Look out of these things, make me a blog post.”
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- Raiza Martin
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- Lenny's Podcast
28 / commitment
Maybe I watch Steven and I look at the way that he does these things and I look at how much time it takes for him to do it, and then I make it my own metric to crunch that down, to bring that expertise to everyday people who are not Steven Johnson.
“Maybe I watch Steven and I look at the way that he does these things and I look at how much time it takes for him to do it, and then I make it my own metric to crunch that down, to bring that expertise to everyday people who are not Steven Johnson.”
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- Raiza Martin
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- Lenny's Podcast
29 / prediction
I think particularly for educators, for learners, for professionals, knowledge workers, as we call them, I think there's a lot there that we'll be able to execute against in the very short term.
“I think particularly for educators, for learners, for professionals, knowledge workers, as we call them, I think there's a lot there that we'll be able to execute against in the very short term.”
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- Raiza Martin
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- Lenny's Podcast
30 / evaluation
5 Pro as sort of the base for NotebookLM, and then we have a powerful voice model on top of it, an audio model on top of it. But I think the real secret sauce to what makes this really good is something we've built, which is a content studio.
“5 Pro as sort of the base for NotebookLM, and then we have a powerful voice model on top of it, an audio model on top of it. But I think the real secret sauce to what makes this really good is something we've built, which is a content studio.”
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- Raiza Martin
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- Lenny's Podcast
31 / observation
Huge interest from professionals that are like, "Wow, I want to use this to work." And really funny, I won't mention the company, but I actually had a call with a company recently where they were like, "Hey, we thought we'd schedule a meeting with you because we found out that a bunch of people in our company are using this tool with their Gmail account.
“Huge interest from professionals that are like, "Wow, I want to use this to work." And really funny, I won't mention the company, but I actually had a call with a company recently where they were like, "Hey, we thought we'd schedule a meeting with you because we found out that a bunch of people in our company are using this tool with their Gmail account.”
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- Raiza Martin
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- Lenny's Podcast