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Published · transcript-backedRaiza Martin: evaluation
10 Oct 2024 Lenny's Podcast Behind the product: NotebookLM | Raiza Martin (Senior Product Manager, AI @ Google Labs)
“5 Pro as sort of the base for NotebookLM, and then we have a powerful voice model on top of it, an audio model on top of it. But I think the real secret sauce to what makes this really good is something we've built, which is a content studio.”
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- 10 Oct 2024
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…Yeah, it's such an unintuitive but clever idea of making something a podcast. Let's take a tangent into the technology behind this thing. So there's kind of two questions I'm thinking about. One is just what technology needed to exist for this to be possible? And then two is just what did you do to make this so good? How did you train this model to create a podcast that's this good? So we could start with the first and then get into the second. Yeah, I mean that's such a great question. I mean truly the Gemini models are so powerful and we use Gemini 1. 5 Pro as sort of the base for NotebookLM, and then we have a powerful voice model on top of it, an audio model on top of it. But I think the real secret sauce to what makes this really good is something we've built, which is a content studio. And you kind of see a clue of this inside NotebookLM where when you open up Notebook Guide, Notebook Guide is designed to take an opinionated approach to the content that you've given it. And what it's really trying to do is be as helpful as possible. It gives you a summary, gives you buttons where if you click on it, it'll write something for you. And the audio is a big part of that. And so this was very interesting for us because we had to think about what shape should that audio be in? The deep dive is the first format we've thought about. And we actually have a super talented engineer on our team, his name's Usama, and he's the real craftsman behind thinking through Content Studio and thinking about what makes something really relatable to people in a way that's engaging, that's interesting. So content studio is the real magic here. So when you say content studio, what does that mean? What does that actually look like? What is a content studio?…
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