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Behind the product: NotebookLM | Raiza Martin (Senior Product Manager, AI @ Google Labs)

10 Oct 2024 14 published claims 2 attributable people

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belief 3preference 3commitment 2evaluation 2prediction 2uncertainty 1observation 1

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02 / uncertainty

To me it feels very similar to the ChatGPT moment where the technology already existed, they had that same GPT model out for I don't know how long, but just that new medium and new way of interacting with it changed the way people imagine.

“To me it feels very similar to the ChatGPT moment where the technology already existed, they had that same GPT model out for I don't know how long, but just that new medium and new way of interacting with it changed the way people imagine.”
Speaker
Lenny Rachitsky
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

03 / belief

" Clicked on Upload Google Doc, and maybe the last thing you had there was your resume or something. But imagine you click that and I think there's something really special about, you don't know what's going to happen.

“" Clicked on Upload Google Doc, and maybe the last thing you had there was your resume or something. But imagine you click that and I think there's something really special about, you don't know what's going to happen.”
Speaker
Raiza Martin
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

05 / commitment

" And I remember when we stood up the server, actually, one of the things I was most afraid of is, what if nobody joins? What if no people come in and want to talk to us about the thing that we built?

“" And I remember when we stood up the server, actually, one of the things I was most afraid of is, what if nobody joins? What if no people come in and want to talk to us about the thing that we built?”
Speaker
Raiza Martin
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

06 / preference

What I especially love about this vision you're describing, it super resonates with this insight I've had. So I've had a newsletter and then I had just a podcast that's just audio, and then I added video and I realized that there's just people that I just want to watch stuff and there's people that I just want to listen to stuff and then there's people I just want to read.

“What I especially love about this vision you're describing, it super resonates with this insight I've had. So I've had a newsletter and then I had just a podcast that's just audio, and then I added video and I realized that there's just people that I just want to watch stuff and there's people that I just want to listen to stuff and then there's people I just want to read.”
Speaker
Lenny Rachitsky
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

07 / preference

I mean, I love the resume ones. I think the resume ones are so delightful. And actually really adjacent to that is Google has these Q3 check-ins or quarterly check-ins where we have to write performance reviews for ourselves.

“I mean, I love the resume ones. I think the resume ones are so delightful. And actually really adjacent to that is Google has these Q3 check-ins or quarterly check-ins where we have to write performance reviews for ourselves.”
Speaker
Raiza Martin
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

08 / preference

How do I go about finding the answer? And I think we've seen different approaches to this where you just put the tool out there, you study how people are using it, and I think that's a fine approach, but we try to have a little bit more of a hypothesis about what is the shape of this thing to actually get the most learning out of it.

“How do I go about finding the answer? And I think we've seen different approaches to this where you just put the tool out there, you study how people are using it, and I think that's a fine approach, but we try to have a little bit more of a hypothesis about what is the shape of this thing to actually get the most learning out of it.”
Speaker
Raiza Martin
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

09 / evaluation

Alongside, the Content Studio is designed to bring out the best of that model. And I think when we listened to a lot of the early attempts that we had, it wasn't nearly this good.

“Alongside, the Content Studio is designed to bring out the best of that model. And I think when we listened to a lot of the early attempts that we had, it wasn't nearly this good.”
Speaker
Raiza Martin
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

10 / prediction

The thing that I wanted to do from the get-go, which was I imagine that in the future you could have an AI editor surface, fully remixable, any input, any output. And that to me is a really powerful core nugget where if you imagine you could take anything, whether it's video, audio, your emails, your LinkedIn, your Twitter, the world of things that we care about, you have an AI interface that allows you to shape it and say, "Look out of these things, make me a blog post.

“The thing that I wanted to do from the get-go, which was I imagine that in the future you could have an AI editor surface, fully remixable, any input, any output. And that to me is a really powerful core nugget where if you imagine you could take anything, whether it's video, audio, your emails, your LinkedIn, your Twitter, the world of things that we care about, you have an AI interface that allows you to shape it and say, "Look out of these things, make me a blog post.”
Speaker
Raiza Martin
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

11 / commitment

Maybe I watch Steven and I look at the way that he does these things and I look at how much time it takes for him to do it, and then I make it my own metric to crunch that down, to bring that expertise to everyday people who are not Steven Johnson.

“Maybe I watch Steven and I look at the way that he does these things and I look at how much time it takes for him to do it, and then I make it my own metric to crunch that down, to bring that expertise to everyday people who are not Steven Johnson.”
Speaker
Raiza Martin
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

12 / prediction

I think particularly for educators, for learners, for professionals, knowledge workers, as we call them, I think there's a lot there that we'll be able to execute against in the very short term.

“I think particularly for educators, for learners, for professionals, knowledge workers, as we call them, I think there's a lot there that we'll be able to execute against in the very short term.”
Speaker
Raiza Martin
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

13 / evaluation

5 Pro as sort of the base for NotebookLM, and then we have a powerful voice model on top of it, an audio model on top of it. But I think the real secret sauce to what makes this really good is something we've built, which is a content studio.

“5 Pro as sort of the base for NotebookLM, and then we have a powerful voice model on top of it, an audio model on top of it. But I think the real secret sauce to what makes this really good is something we've built, which is a content studio.”
Speaker
Raiza Martin
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

14 / observation

Huge interest from professionals that are like, "Wow, I want to use this to work." And really funny, I won't mention the company, but I actually had a call with a company recently where they were like, "Hey, we thought we'd schedule a meeting with you because we found out that a bunch of people in our company are using this tool with their Gmail account.

“Huge interest from professionals that are like, "Wow, I want to use this to work." And really funny, I won't mention the company, but I actually had a call with a company recently where they were like, "Hey, we thought we'd schedule a meeting with you because we found out that a bunch of people in our company are using this tool with their Gmail account.”
Speaker
Raiza Martin
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast
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