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Jerusalem Demsas on The Dispossessed, Gulliver's Travels, and Of Boys and Men
6 Sept 2023 29 published claims 2 attributable people
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“The fact that he hasn’t returned to his home planet at the end — we don’t know if he actually lands and is safe there — I think is a clearer message of how .”
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“Understanding yourself is a kind of answer, and if you just think, “I want the life where I have all these open questions that bug me,” I would say go travel a lot.”
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“Both come home empty-handed, as I think I mentioned before, and neither seems happy at the end.”
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“I will be glad that I went, but that’s partly investing in the memory and the experience.”
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“I think part of Le Guin’s message, which was very 1974 — maybe more true than people realize today — is you only get a shot at the good parts of the non-communal society by tolerating this pretty high risk of war, that it keeps things dynamic in some way.”
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“I think there’s a lack of cultural self-confidence that would be needed to do that, and in that respect, our world probably, or the Western world, is worse.”
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“One thing I thought about while reading this book was — I don’t know if you have an opinion on this, but I feel like people don’t really write utopian literature anymore.”
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“I think that the ambiguity, clearly, between you and I about what Le Guin is trying to tell us about these different systems is actually extremely valuable.”
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“I wonder then, to me, I’ve always had this opinion. I think a lot of people don’t travel well for what they want to do.”
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“Psychologists have speculated it was an actual psychological syndrome of some kind, but of course, we don’t know.”
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“I think many people, when they travel, end up staying within very similar social groups or even only with Americans or the people they’re traveling with, and have very little interaction with people and learning about their lives in any meaningful way.”
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“I think there’s this current here which is trying to really undermine the idea that there are these ideals in the capitalist society that are actually .”
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“One is that he makes a comment that I think is meant to fly under the radar very early in the book, which is that he’s only talking about cis, heterosexual men.”
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“For all the talk about the scientific breakthrough, I think he never has anything.”
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“Maybe there are other cultures who are writing utopias. I don’t know. You are the one who reads internationally.”
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“I think Le Guin is pretty clear that she prefers the anarchist world but doesn’t shy away from the problems with it, which I think is usually the issue with utopian writing.”
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“” Maybe it’s a knock against moral progress that the same questions are being debated over centuries. It doesn’t matter the format, it doesn’t matter the style, it doesn’t matter the background of the interlocutor.”
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“Our main character is a physicist who travels between the two, trying to bridge the gap. I think that’s a broad summary.”
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“I think he’s much more pessimistic about it than I am, given how quick the gains have been in my own lifetime around moral progress.”
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“I think one of the things Swift is showing us with these very odd societies — their wars, to us, make no sense — he’s saying the wars of his own time, from any future vantage point, won’t make any more sense either.”
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“[laughs] I think there’s a comment made by a woman that Shevek, our protagonist, meets on his travels, where she says that it’s better to have the conflict outside of your head than to have the conflict within yourself.”
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“At the same time, it’s just like many of the things that I’ve gotten from really productive travel experiences that have also been analogous to experiences when I read very, very good books or I hear a very, very smart argument or something like that.”
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“We’re creatures of comfort whether we like to admit it or not, and that’s also partly a theme in Gulliver’s Travels.”
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“I think that’s maybe slightly a little bit too much in The Dispossessed world because we know later on that his connections end up being the foundation for a really important technology that connects space, different planets.”
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“I think he’s just saying, this is how things would have to be for these supposed utopian visions to be realized.”
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“. it’s hard because I was saying this to you before we started this, but most of the book is trying to convince you that the idea is a very heterodox idea, that we should care about men as well.”
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“I think reading science fiction — it’s like a way of having conversations about politics without having to necessarily feel that.”
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“It’s almost not science fiction. It’s an anthropological investigation of two worlds that we call science fiction because we don’t know where else to put them.”
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“The notion that men do well in societies in relative terms when there’s a lot of war, and it’s better to get rid of war, but when you get rid of war, a lot of men won’t do that well because they’re not well-suited to that kind of society.”
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