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Jerusalem Demsas: uncertainty

6 Sept 2023 Conversations with Tyler Jerusalem Demsas on The Dispossessed, Gulliver's Travels, and Of Boys and Men

“One thing I thought about while reading this book was — I don’t know if you have an opinion on this, but I feel like people don’t really write utopian literature anymore.”

— Jerusalem Demsas

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Jerusalem Demsas
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6 Sept 2023
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Conversations with Tyler

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…I think she is. The Left Hand of Darkness, which I assume you know — the way you get peace is by having genders that only are capable of sex a small percentage of the time. The implication is, that’s the one thing you have to do that will get you peace, and nothing else will work. Neither capitalism nor socialism nor anything in between. I think it’s this 1960s Neo-Freudian, like Norman Brown direction, point of view that everything’s about sex and violence and conflict and how they fit together. She’s, in a way, anti-utopian relative to the ’60s. That’s how I read her. Yes. One thing I thought about while reading this book was — I don’t know if you have an opinion on this, but I feel like people don’t really write utopian literature anymore. Do you feel like that’s changed? Oh, there’s so much. I see a higher proportion of dystopias —…

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