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Nathan Labenz

Host · The Cognitive Revolution

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Kevin Roose

“On The New York Times, I, I share your disappointment. I, I recommend Kevin Roose and, and Hard Fork out of The New York Times family of-”

The Cognitive Revolution · 23 Jun 2026

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Claude Max

“And certainly if you were to triple it from there, you'd be getting into something on the order of magnitude of parity with human headcount. What are you doing with it all too? Because I use my $200 Claude Max and my Codex Pro and I honestly don't even hit my limits that often.”

The Cognitive Revolution · 17 Jun 2026

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Codex Pro

“And certainly if you were to triple it from there, you'd be getting into something on the order of magnitude of parity with human headcount. What are you doing with it all too? Because I use my $200 Claude Max and my Codex Pro and I honestly don't even hit my limits that often.”

The Cognitive Revolution · 17 Jun 2026

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Claude Max

“What are you doing with it all too? Because I use my $200 Claude Max and my Codex Pro and I honestly don't even hit my limits that often.”

The Cognitive Revolution · 17 Jun 2026

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Codex Pro

“What are you doing with it all too? Because I use my $200 Claude Max and my Codex Pro and I honestly don't even hit my limits that often.”

The Cognitive Revolution · 17 Jun 2026

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Gemini 3 flash

“I think I used Gemini 3 flash at the time.”

The Cognitive Revolution · 1 Jun 2026

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Claude

“That's probably the biggest reason that I use Claude is that I perceive it to be most robust to that kind of stuff.”

The Cognitive Revolution · 26 Apr 2026

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Beeper Desktop

“I use Beeper Desktop to try to like aggregate a half dozen or so of them. That's also kind of painful. I feel like Beeper Desktop is, Good idea crashes a lot for me.”

The Cognitive Revolution · 19 Apr 2026

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AE Studio

“Is there stuff that we can do or is it, you know, is there is it a different organization's job to figure out how to fill that gap. Because I do feel like I want some more, and I love some of the AE Studio stuff, including self-other overlap.”

The Cognitive Revolution · 4 Jan 2026

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01 / recommendation

On the topic of whether or not it's OK to put pressure on the chain of thought, the obfuscated reward hacking paper from Open AI is canonical in my mind for why you maybe shouldn't do it.

“On the topic of whether or not it's OK to put pressure on the chain of thought, the obfuscated reward hacking paper from Open AI is canonical in my mind for why you maybe shouldn't do it.”
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Nathan Labenz
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution

02 / recommendation

We should fund more AI safety research and do more policy because if we have time for the wisdom of having these alien intelligences around helping us, if we can leverage them and actually make better decisions before the critical decisions get made, there's going to be a series of decisions in the 21st century that we're going to look back on, like this decisions made in the 20th century about communism and World War 2 and the atom bomb and all of those things.

“We should fund more AI safety research and do more policy because if we have time for the wisdom of having these alien intelligences around helping us, if we can leverage them and actually make better decisions before the critical decisions get made, there's going to be a series of decisions in the 21st century that we're going to look back on, like this decisions made in the 20th century about communism and World War 2 and the atom bomb and all of those things.”
Speaker
Nathan Labenz
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution

05 / recommendation

Mentions personal use of Claude Max. Mentions personal use of Codex Pro.

“And certainly if you were to triple it from there, you'd be getting into something on the order of magnitude of parity with human headcount. What are you doing with it all too? Because I use my $200 Claude Max and my Codex Pro and I honestly don't even hit my limits that often.”
Speaker
Nathan Labenz
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution

06 / recommendation

It can only do probably the frog game at the end of this training. But building out a world where we have these little role-specific AIs doing their jobs, doing it really well, I think that creates a much more buffered environment that's probably a lot more resilient to another generation of AI that's just like amazing at everything coming in and kind of shocking the system in such a profound way.

“It can only do probably the frog game at the end of this training. But building out a world where we have these little role-specific AIs doing their jobs, doing it really well, I think that creates a much more buffered environment that's probably a lot more resilient to another generation of AI that's just like amazing at everything coming in and kind of shocking the system in such a profound way.”
Speaker
Nathan Labenz
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution

07 / recommendation

Yeah, I used to tell people, When I did any sort of AI advisory consulting, I would say you could do a lot worse than as a leader just watching your token consumption, but definitely don't tell the team that's how you're gonna be measuring them.

“Yeah, I used to tell people, When I did any sort of AI advisory consulting, I would say you could do a lot worse than as a leader just watching your token consumption, but definitely don't tell the team that's how you're gonna be measuring them.”
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Nathan Labenz
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution

08 / recommendation

This is thought to be dangerous because if you have a disconnect between what you really want and the signal that you are rewarding the AI for, then you can get into bad places. And so the obfuscated reward hacking paper that I think is still one of the most important papers of the last few years from OpenAI showed that if you have a hackable reward signal and your model learns to hack that, you can then put pressure on the chain of thought.

“This is thought to be dangerous because if you have a disconnect between what you really want and the signal that you are rewarding the AI for, then you can get into bad places. And so the obfuscated reward hacking paper that I think is still one of the most important papers of the last few years from OpenAI showed that if you have a hackable reward signal and your model learns to hack that, you can then put pressure on the chain of thought.”
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Nathan Labenz
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution

11 / recommendation

I do think one of my own personal cause areas that I recommend all the time is just trying to develop more concrete visions of what a positive future and of rewarding life in the context of AGI abundance could look like.

“I do think one of my own personal cause areas that I recommend all the time is just trying to develop more concrete visions of what a positive future and of rewarding life in the context of AGI abundance could look like.”
Speaker
Nathan Labenz
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution
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