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Inside Nathan's Second Brain: Daniel Miessler, Security Expert & Creator of PAI, Audits My AI Setup

1 Jun 2026 24 published claims 2 attributable people
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Daniel MiesslerNathan Labenz

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belief 9evaluation 4uncertainty 4preference 4recommendation 2commitment 1

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01 / belief

Most people will end up with one DA and your DA, of course, you can have others participate as well, but I think you'll have one primary digital assistant and it's the one managing all that other stuff.

“Most people will end up with one DA and your DA, of course, you can have others participate as well, but I think you'll have one primary digital assistant and it's the one managing all that other stuff.”
Speaker
Daniel Miessler
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution

02 / belief

I think has been realizing that my top level second brain called Code Agent can change all these repos underneath it without needing to be it.

“I think has been realizing that my top level second brain called Code Agent can change all these repos underneath it without needing to be it.”
Speaker
Nathan Labenz
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution

03 / evaluation

Do they handle the sort of confirmation step well? Because I one thing that was flagged for me as I was talking to AI, of course, about how to do this is that the, those sort of VoIP numbers sometimes don't work for like, you know, you sign up for a new account, then you get the, the code or whatever.

“Do they handle the sort of confirmation step well? Because I one thing that was flagged for me as I was talking to AI, of course, about how to do this is that the, those sort of VoIP numbers sometimes don't work for like, you know, you sign up for a new account, then you get the, the code or whatever.”
Speaker
Nathan Labenz
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution

04 / belief

Yeah, I, I think the direction I'm heading there and I haven't done it yet just because same reason I haven't given it full customer access to send the emails and everything is essentially, yeah, you could do a full outbound calls and everything.

“Yeah, I, I think the direction I'm heading there and I haven't done it yet just because same reason I haven't given it full customer access to send the emails and everything is essentially, yeah, you could do a full outbound calls and everything.”
Speaker
Daniel Miessler
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution

06 / uncertainty

Oh, we might want to talk about the algorithm at some point. I don't know. I can't remember if we talked about it last time, but with the algorithm where you're chasing an ideal state inside of even building an application, just a pure coding thing, if there's ambiguity, you're not chasing the proper ideal state and you can't turn it into discrete, testable criteria.

“Oh, we might want to talk about the algorithm at some point. I don't know. I can't remember if we talked about it last time, but with the algorithm where you're chasing an ideal state inside of even building an application, just a pure coding thing, if there's ambiguity, you're not chasing the proper ideal state and you can't turn it into discrete, testable criteria.”
Speaker
Daniel Miessler
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution

08 / uncertainty

Anyway, the one thing that I had where it actually like did a data delete that it was actually kind of painful was predicated on the fact that Slack's rate limits, if you're just kind of a indie hacker, are insanely low Gmail, you know, you fly through and it took me a, you know, I don't know, a couple hours for the script to run.

“Anyway, the one thing that I had where it actually like did a data delete that it was actually kind of painful was predicated on the fact that Slack's rate limits, if you're just kind of a indie hacker, are insanely low Gmail, you know, you fly through and it took me a, you know, I don't know, a couple hours for the script to run.”
Speaker
Nathan Labenz
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution

09 / belief

One thing that Granola doesn't do, which I think in many contexts may be the right choice for them, is they don't record the original audio.

“One thing that Granola doesn't do, which I think in many contexts may be the right choice for them, is they don't record the original audio.”
Speaker
Nathan Labenz
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution

10 / uncertainty

I mean, one thing people sort of seem to find surprise and delight in at least, you know, as reported on Twitter often is when, you know, agents do something cool that wasn't expected or they're sort of, you know, some emergent property. I don't know, I guess I don't, I'm not too worried about it.

“I mean, one thing people sort of seem to find surprise and delight in at least, you know, as reported on Twitter often is when, you know, agents do something cool that wasn't expected or they're sort of, you know, some emergent property. I don't know, I guess I don't, I'm not too worried about it.”
Speaker
Nathan Labenz
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution

12 / belief

I could go back and, you know, retranscribe, but I think that's usually so far, like really, you know, as of today, I think that's already pretty good and pretty trustworthy.

“I could go back and, you know, retranscribe, but I think that's usually so far, like really, you know, as of today, I think that's already pretty good and pretty trustworthy.”
Speaker
Nathan Labenz
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution

14 / belief

I've kind of, I've got enough, but I, how can I bring the cream to the top? So that was one initial use of that, but then also another post processing I think, I'm not sure if this maybe came in like May or something when everybody was all of a sudden doing wikis was to one idea I had over time was OK, Now that I have this thing right and it comes from like 8 different sources.

“I've kind of, I've got enough, but I, how can I bring the cream to the top? So that was one initial use of that, but then also another post processing I think, I'm not sure if this maybe came in like May or something when everybody was all of a sudden doing wikis was to one idea I had over time was OK, Now that I have this thing right and it comes from like 8 different sources.”
Speaker
Nathan Labenz
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution

15 / evaluation

If you reach out to somebody and you say, hey, I saw a flower at the mall and it made me think of you. And if you wrote them a hand note, you know, 40 years ago, or if you texted them that 10 years ago, that has extreme value because you assume that you don't talk to this person a lot, but you saw a flower and you thought of your friend.

“If you reach out to somebody and you say, hey, I saw a flower at the mall and it made me think of you. And if you wrote them a hand note, you know, 40 years ago, or if you texted them that 10 years ago, that has extreme value because you assume that you don't talk to this person a lot, but you saw a flower and you thought of your friend.”
Speaker
Daniel Miessler
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution

16 / preference

I mean, this is just a preference and a bias, but I think we should want a more integrated life because ideally the work that we should be doing is something that just inspires us and makes us happy, which is the same thing we're supposed to be getting from life.

“I mean, this is just a preference and a bias, but I think we should want a more integrated life because ideally the work that we should be doing is something that just inspires us and makes us happy, which is the same thing we're supposed to be getting from life.”
Speaker
Daniel Miessler
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution

18 / evaluation

As the AI gets smarter and smarter, the specific ways you told it to do things will get Dumber and Dumber because it's us being egotistical and thinking our ideas are so cool with look, look how smart I made this skill when in fact AI could do it better.

“As the AI gets smarter and smarter, the specific ways you told it to do things will get Dumber and Dumber because it's us being egotistical and thinking our ideas are so cool with look, look how smart I made this skill when in fact AI could do it better.”
Speaker
Daniel Miessler
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution

19 / commitment

Time flies in the AI space, as you know better than most. And I'm excited for this conversation because basically what I've been doing since then, taking inspiration from you and others, has been building up my own personal AI infrastructure.

“Time flies in the AI space, as you know better than most. And I'm excited for this conversation because basically what I've been doing since then, taking inspiration from you and others, has been building up my own personal AI infrastructure.”
Speaker
Nathan Labenz
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution

20 / preference

There's also one called head scale, which is an open source version which you can kind of run like just on Cloudflare or whatever. So I, I'm, I'm using both of those, I like to not have anything facing the Internet because of the kind of the mythos effect.

“There's also one called head scale, which is an open source version which you can kind of run like just on Cloudflare or whatever. So I, I'm, I'm using both of those, I like to not have anything facing the Internet because of the kind of the mythos effect.”
Speaker
Daniel Miessler
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution

21 / preference

I think I'm trying to be more unified or simplified. So I have a unsupervised learning unified GitHub, which is essentially what are we doing work it's So the reason I'm using GitHub for this is because it has so many primitives already built in.

“I think I'm trying to be more unified or simplified. So I have a unsupervised learning unified GitHub, which is essentially what are we doing work it's So the reason I'm using GitHub for this is because it has so many primitives already built in.”
Speaker
Daniel Miessler
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution

22 / evaluation

I would say go to the bigger companies and use the ones that are going to be attacked the most and have the most security people working on them because it really is security by obscurity that's protecting the smaller companies.

“I would say go to the bigger companies and use the ones that are going to be attacked the most and have the most security people working on them because it really is security by obscurity that's protecting the smaller companies.”
Speaker
Daniel Miessler
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution

23 / recommendation

I would say 1 tactical thing that I recommend is that anyone who has stuff deployed that was built with AI use something like Cloudflare.

“I would say 1 tactical thing that I recommend is that anyone who has stuff deployed that was built with AI use something like Cloudflare.”
Speaker
Daniel Miessler
Publisher
The Cognitive Revolution
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