Nathan Labenz: evaluation

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…Yeah, I, I think the direction I'm heading there and I haven't done it yet just because same reason I haven't given it full customer access to send the emails and everything is essentially, yeah, you could do a full outbound calls and everything. I mean, one example of this is just like a business that I'm sort of working on, which which involves finding people who make tons of money and basically are struggling. And OK, first of all, I have to find them, then I have to do outreach. And what I've sort of settled on is like Twilio combined with 11 labs, combined with a really good agent infrastructure, which I'm essentially building kind of roughly on the structure of like Hermes. But if you can have that interaction back and forth with 11 labs, which is pretty easy to do, combined with a pretty smart agent, you can pretty much do outbound calls and you could do outbound sales. Like this is what all these third parties are doing. So I, I think the functionality is there, outbound texts, outbound calls. Yeah, I, I think that's pretty much the way to go. And I I basically settled on Twilio and 11 labs. I've been a Twilio customer for a long time, although not so intensively recently 1, so I can definitely say like up there with Stripe. My impression exactly of their APIs was like truly Creme de la Creme, like things of beauty. Do they handle the sort of confirmation step well? Because I one thing that was flagged for me as I was talking to AI, of course, about how to do this is that the, those sort of VoIP numbers sometimes don't work for like, you know, you sign up for a new account, then you get the, the code or whatever. Like sometimes they have problems with that. Have you had any? I've had, I've had some issues with it. Yeah, I've had it work sometimes in other numbers. I get that sort of thing. It's like California does not allow an account, a number like this to be used for outbound calls or whatever. I'm actually looking at some other vendors specifically because of that. But I have got it to work. I do have one account that does work and it is truly a based. So I, I think it's kind of a murky area, kind of like voice call spam type situation.…

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