Daniel Miessler: belief

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…Cool. That's interesting. What other affordances are you giving agents? One of the ones that I'm kind of contemplating right now. So I've got the, it's got its own Gmail account, it's got its own GitHub, it's got access to some shared passwords and secrets. I just, you know, one of the, the tasks that I'm hoping I can get AI to help with is taking some, you know, accumulating home improvement projects off my plate. But so I actually just had Claude go through a neighborhood GroupMe chat where it turns out over the years, 300 different contractors have been mentioned, recommended, you know, shared whatever in the chat. People had already put some effort into creating a spreadsheet of that. The clawed past more than doubled the size of the spreadsheet. So whether my neighbors are going to think I'm, excuse me, a hero or a creep for doing that is is yet to be determined. But now I'm like, OK, I've got, you know, pretty seemingly pretty promising answers for a few of these things that I want to get done where, you know, neighborhoods had a good experience. Whatever. How do I sick the AI on this? Do I have the AI text? Do I have a try to call? If it's going to call, you know, does it need its own phone number? Should I like what? What does that look like? I don't know how people are going to respond to getting calls by a is. This is probably in contrast to like an e-mail where I kind of think try to show value 1st and then reveal you're an AI at the end. I'm with the phone calls. I think you probably have to say I'm calling on behalf of a real, I'm, I'm an AI calling on behalf of a real possible customer, you know, try to like get them to listen based on the promise as opposed to, you know, the obviously I think that the AI voices are still fairly detectable. But what's the kind of frontier for you in terms of the, you know, beyond the obvious, the Swiss Army knife of things that you've given agents to go interact with the world? Yeah, I, I think the direction I'm heading there and I haven't done it yet just because same reason I haven't given it full customer access to send the emails and everything is essentially, yeah, you could do a full outbound calls and everything. I mean, one example of this is just like a business that I'm sort of working on, which which involves finding people who make tons of money and basically are struggling. And OK, first of all, I have to find them, then I have to do outreach. And what I've sort of settled on is like Twilio combined with 11 labs, combined with a really good agent infrastructure, which I'm essentially building kind of roughly on the structure of like Hermes. But if you can have that interaction back and forth with 11 labs, which is pretty easy to do, combined with a pretty smart agent, you can pretty much do outbound calls and you could do outbound sales. Like this is what all these third parties are doing. So I, I think the functionality is there, outbound texts, outbound calls. Yeah, I, I think that's pretty much the way to go. And I I basically settled on Twilio and 11 labs. I've been a Twilio customer for a long time, although not so intensively recently 1, so I can definitely say like up there with Stripe. My impression exactly of their APIs was like truly Creme de la Creme, like things of beauty. Do they handle the sort of confirmation step well? Because I one thing that was flagged for me as I was talking to AI, of course, about how to do this is that the, those sort of VoIP numbers sometimes don't work for like, you know, you sign up for a new account, then you get the, the code or whatever. Like sometimes they have problems with that. Have you had any?…

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