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Dan Shipper

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book / recommends

The Rigor of Angels

“Obviously Annie Dillard. Everyone at every has to read The Writing Life. When you join, you get a copy and you have to read it. You only have to read the last chapter though. I think the last chapter is incredible, and it is at the intersection of writing and technology and the future and its relationship to the future and to time. It's everything about every wrapped up into a very tight chapter. It's so good. And I think Annie Dillard just generally is fantastic. What else do I recommend? I'll just tell you a couple things that I've read that I've really liked recently, and whenever I like something, I always just tell everyone about it. So I have recommended these a lot. I've been reading... One of the things I learned, which I didn't know is Churchill is a really good writer and he has a whole history of World War II that he wrote and it's like a combination history and memoir. And I think that's so cool because he was there, he did it. And there's something about what we do at everywhere. I feel some sort of kinship with that of like we're building stuff, we're writing stuff and it's very rare to find people that also do that. And so Churchill History of World War II is fantastic. I just finished the first volume. I'm on the second volume. The Nazis just invaded France. It's very captivating stuff. So that's one. I've been on a little bit of a quantum physics kick recently. AI is actually very good for quantum physics if you get into it. And there's this book called The Rigor of Angels that I just finished, which is, it's a history of ideas that relates Heisenberg, who has his uncertainty principle. Borges, who's an Argentinian fiction writer, wrote a bunch of great short stories. They're actually starting to get a lot of play now because they're very AI related. And Cont and very cool, super mind-blowing. Lots of interesting overlaps with AI stuff and, yeah, highly recommend.”

Lenny's Podcast · 24 May 2026

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The Writing Life

“Obviously Annie Dillard. Everyone at every has to read The Writing Life. When you join, you get a copy and you have to read it. You only have to read the last chapter though. I think the last chapter is incredible, and it is at the intersection of writing and technology and the future and its relationship to the future and to time. It's everything about every wrapped up into a very tight chapter. It's so good. And I think Annie Dillard just generally is fantastic. What else do I recommend? I'll just tell you a couple things that I've read that I've really liked recently, and whenever I like something, I always just tell everyone about it. So I have recommended these a lot. I've been reading... One of the things I learned, which I didn't know is Churchill is a really good writer and he has a whole history of World War II that he wrote and it's like a combination history and memoir. And I think that's so cool because he was there, he did it. And there's something about what we do at everywhere. I feel some sort of kinship with that of like we're building stuff, we're writing stuff and it's very rare to find people that also do that. And so Churchill History of World War II is fantastic. I just finished the first volume. I'm on the second volume. The Nazis just invaded France. It's very captivating stuff. So that's one. I've been on a little bit of a quantum physics kick recently. AI is actually very good for quantum physics if you get into it. And there's this book called The Rigor of Angels that I just finished, which is, it's a history of ideas that relates Heisenberg, who has his uncertainty principle. Borges, who's an Argentinian fiction writer, wrote a bunch of great short stories. They're actually starting to get a lot of play now because they're very AI related. And Cont and very cool, super mind-blowing. Lots of interesting overlaps with AI stuff and, yeah, highly recommend.”

Lenny's Podcast · 24 May 2026

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History of World War II

“Obviously Annie Dillard. Everyone at every has to read The Writing Life. When you join, you get a copy and you have to read it. You only have to read the last chapter though. I think the last chapter is incredible, and it is at the intersection of writing and technology and the future and its relationship to the future and to time. It's everything about every wrapped up into a very tight chapter. It's so good. And I think Annie Dillard just generally is fantastic. What else do I recommend? I'll just tell you a couple things that I've read that I've really liked recently, and whenever I like something, I always just tell everyone about it. So I have recommended these a lot. I've been reading... One of the things I learned, which I didn't know is Churchill is a really good writer and he has a whole history of World War II that he wrote and it's like a combination history and memoir. And I think that's so cool because he was there, he did it. And there's something about what we do at everywhere. I feel some sort of kinship with that of like we're building stuff, we're writing stuff and it's very rare to find people that also do that. And so Churchill History of World War II is fantastic. I just finished the first volume. I'm on the second volume. The Nazis just invaded France. It's very captivating stuff. So that's one. I've been on a little bit of a quantum physics kick recently. AI is actually very good for quantum physics if you get into it. And there's this book called The Rigor of Angels that I just finished, which is, it's a history of ideas that relates Heisenberg, who has his uncertainty principle. Borges, who's an Argentinian fiction writer, wrote a bunch of great short stories. They're actually starting to get a lot of play now because they're very AI related. And Cont and very cool, super mind-blowing. Lots of interesting overlaps with AI stuff and, yeah, highly recommend.”

Lenny's Podcast · 24 May 2026

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Whisper flow

“I use Granola. So I used to use Super Whisper and Whisper flow, which I think are fantastic.”

Lenny's Podcast · 17 Jul 2025

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Super Whisper

“I use Granola. So I used to use Super Whisper and Whisper flow, which I think are fantastic.”

Lenny's Podcast · 17 Jul 2025

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Granola

“I use Granola. So I used to use Super Whisper and Whisper flow, which I think are fantastic.”

Lenny's Podcast · 17 Jul 2025

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book / likes

War and Peace

“Something that I've done a lot, so I'm a writer for a lot of my job. And I know you're going to ask me about books I love, so I'm going to give you a sneak peek, which is I love War and Peace.”

Lenny's Podcast · 17 Jul 2025

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The Master and His Emissary

“Well, I already recommended one, which is War and Peace. Definitely got to read that. If you want a like Tolstoy primer, I would read The Death of Ivan Ilyich. Another good one is A Swim in a Pond in the Rain, which is by George Saunders, and that's a collection of Russian short stories that is also about writing. And in particular, I really like the Russians because a lot of the Russian novelists are dealing with the effects of technology on the traditional Russian way of life, and they're very kind of in this really interesting middle ground between a sort of romantic outlook on the world and a more rationalist like, " We're progressing, we're making progress." And that's one of the things you'll find in Anna Karenina, oh, and ... God, what's the guy's ... Levin is out in the fields with the peasants, doing the scythe thing. That's Tolstoy kind of thinking about, "Oh, what would it be like, instead of being a nobleman who's trying to make farms way more efficient, I was just like with my scythe, that was really happy?" Anyway, so they're dealing with a lot of similar stuff to, I think AI. The Master and His Emissary is another really good one, and that's about basically how the different hemispheres of the brain view reality. It's really, really good, and I think it relates to a lot of AI stuff too. Yeah, I think those are my three or four. Yeah.”

Lenny's Podcast · 17 Jul 2025

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The Death of Ivan Ilyich

“Well, I already recommended one, which is War and Peace. Definitely got to read that. If you want a like Tolstoy primer, I would read The Death of Ivan Ilyich. Another good one is A Swim in a Pond in the Rain, which is by George Saunders, and that's a collection of Russian short stories that is also about writing. And in particular, I really like the Russians because a lot of the Russian novelists are dealing with the effects of technology on the traditional Russian way of life, and they're very kind of in this really interesting middle ground between a sort of romantic outlook on the world and a more rationalist like, " We're progressing, we're making progress." And that's one of the things you'll find in Anna Karenina, oh, and ... God, what's the guy's ... Levin is out in the fields with the peasants, doing the scythe thing. That's Tolstoy kind of thinking about, "Oh, what would it be like, instead of being a nobleman who's trying to make farms way more efficient, I was just like with my scythe, that was really happy?" Anyway, so they're dealing with a lot of similar stuff to, I think AI. The Master and His Emissary is another really good one, and that's about basically how the different hemispheres of the brain view reality. It's really, really good, and I think it relates to a lot of AI stuff too. Yeah, I think those are my three or four. Yeah.”

Lenny's Podcast · 17 Jul 2025

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A Swim in a Pond in the Rain

“Well, I already recommended one, which is War and Peace. Definitely got to read that. If you want a like Tolstoy primer, I would read The Death of Ivan Ilyich. Another good one is A Swim in a Pond in the Rain, which is by George Saunders, and that's a collection of Russian short stories that is also about writing. And in particular, I really like the Russians because a lot of the Russian novelists are dealing with the effects of technology on the traditional Russian way of life, and they're very kind of in this really interesting middle ground between a sort of romantic outlook on the world and a more rationalist like, " We're progressing, we're making progress." And that's one of the things you'll find in Anna Karenina, oh, and ... God, what's the guy's ... Levin is out in the fields with the peasants, doing the scythe thing. That's Tolstoy kind of thinking about, "Oh, what would it be like, instead of being a nobleman who's trying to make farms way more efficient, I was just like with my scythe, that was really happy?" Anyway, so they're dealing with a lot of similar stuff to, I think AI. The Master and His Emissary is another really good one, and that's about basically how the different hemispheres of the brain view reality. It's really, really good, and I think it relates to a lot of AI stuff too. Yeah, I think those are my three or four. Yeah.”

Lenny's Podcast · 17 Jul 2025

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book / recommends

War and Peace

“Well, I already recommended one, which is War and Peace. Definitely got to read that. If you want a like Tolstoy primer, I would read The Death of Ivan Ilyich. Another good one is A Swim in a Pond in the Rain, which is by George Saunders, and that's a collection of Russian short stories that is also about writing. And in particular, I really like the Russians because a lot of the Russian novelists are dealing with the effects of technology on the traditional Russian way of life, and they're very kind of in this really interesting middle ground between a sort of romantic outlook on the world and a more rationalist like, " We're progressing, we're making progress." And that's one of the things you'll find in Anna Karenina, oh, and ... God, what's the guy's ... Levin is out in the fields with the peasants, doing the scythe thing. That's Tolstoy kind of thinking about, "Oh, what would it be like, instead of being a nobleman who's trying to make farms way more efficient, I was just like with my scythe, that was really happy?" Anyway, so they're dealing with a lot of similar stuff to, I think AI. The Master and His Emissary is another really good one, and that's about basically how the different hemispheres of the brain view reality. It's really, really good, and I think it relates to a lot of AI stuff too. Yeah, I think those are my three or four. Yeah.”

Lenny's Podcast · 17 Jul 2025

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What Dan said.

35 transcript-backed records

01 / recommendation

Recommends The Writing Life. Recommends History of World War II. Recommends The Rigor of Angels.

“Obviously Annie Dillard. Everyone at every has to read The Writing Life. When you join, you get a copy and you have to read it. You only have to read the last chapter though. I think the last chapter is incredible, and it is at the intersection of writing and technology and the future and its relationship to the future and to time. It's everything about every wrapped up into a very tight chapter. It's so good. And I think Annie Dillard just generally is fantastic. What else do I recommend? I'll just tell you a couple things that I've read that I've really liked recently, and whenever I like something, I always just tell everyone about it. So I have recommended these a lot. I've been reading... One of the things I learned, which I didn't know is Churchill is a really good writer and he has a whole history of World War II that he wrote and it's like a combination history and memoir. And I think that's so cool because he was there, he did it. And there's something about what we do at everywhere. I feel some sort of kinship with that of like we're building stuff, we're writing stuff and it's very rare to find people that also do that. And so Churchill History of World War II is fantastic. I just finished the first volume. I'm on the second volume. The Nazis just invaded France. It's very captivating stuff. So that's one. I've been on a little bit of a quantum physics kick recently. AI is actually very good for quantum physics if you get into it. And there's this book called The Rigor of Angels that I just finished, which is, it's a history of ideas that relates Heisenberg, who has his uncertainty principle. Borges, who's an Argentinian fiction writer, wrote a bunch of great short stories. They're actually starting to get a lot of play now because they're very AI related. And Cont and very cool, super mind-blowing. Lots of interesting overlaps with AI stuff and, yeah, highly recommend.”
Speaker
Dan Shipper
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

02 / belief

Let's fix that." And so there's certain kinds of engineers that I think love that and love having their hands on the latest thing and also love making this being that's in a workspace and it looks a bit different than more traditional, building more traditional software.

“Let's fix that." And so there's certain kinds of engineers that I think love that and love having their hands on the latest thing and also love making this being that's in a workspace and it looks a bit different than more traditional, building more traditional software.”
Speaker
Dan Shipper
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

03 / uncertainty

I think the definition programmer is expanding enough that they'll have a big market, but I don't know that they're going to jump into like, "Okay, use this to make a slide deck," or whatever.

“I think the definition programmer is expanding enough that they'll have a big market, but I don't know that they're going to jump into like, "Okay, use this to make a slide deck," or whatever.”
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Dan Shipper
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

07 / belief

Sorry, the blue bubbles on OpenClaw, if you can use it with your iPhone, but I think there's this little thing in people's heads where they really like to keep their personal and work agents separate.

“Sorry, the blue bubbles on OpenClaw, if you can use it with your iPhone, but I think there's this little thing in people's heads where they really like to keep their personal and work agents separate.”
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Dan Shipper
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

11 / evaluation

How do I use this to make something new and interesting? And I really think that structurally because of the way the models work, because of the financial incentives of model companies to make them compliant and aligned, structurally they're always going to be trailing behind those people who are taking the models and using them to make new expertise or make new things that haven't been done that way before for their very, very particular situation.

“How do I use this to make something new and interesting? And I really think that structurally because of the way the models work, because of the financial incentives of model companies to make them compliant and aligned, structurally they're always going to be trailing behind those people who are taking the models and using them to make new expertise or make new things that haven't been done that way before for their very, very particular situation.”
Speaker
Dan Shipper
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

12 / prediction

I think you can, and there's another really interesting bifurcation of this that we should talk about, which is that having two agents is better than one. But I think for now there's this really cool thing where with Proof, for example, anyone who uses it, I don't pay for tokens because they bring their AI to Proof.

“I think you can, and there's another really interesting bifurcation of this that we should talk about, which is that having two agents is better than one. But I think for now there's this really cool thing where with Proof, for example, anyone who uses it, I don't pay for tokens because they bring their AI to Proof.”
Speaker
Dan Shipper
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

15 / prediction

One last thing that I think is really interesting is I think that we will be reading way more AI generated writing in documents and emails and we will like it.

“One last thing that I think is really interesting is I think that we will be reading way more AI generated writing in documents and emails and we will like it.”
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Dan Shipper
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

16 / preference

I'm very curious and I'm super all-in on AI." And what that does, I think, is it creates this little pocket of the future where we're all living in it together and we get to be a little bit further ahead because at any other company, there's a mix of people.

“I'm very curious and I'm super all-in on AI." And what that does, I think, is it creates this little pocket of the future where we're all living in it together and we get to be a little bit further ahead because at any other company, there's a mix of people.”
Speaker
Dan Shipper
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

17 / evaluation

Well, one of the things that's really interesting is a lot of companies handicap their employees from even doing this because I don't know if you can use the latest models at Salesforce.

“Well, one of the things that's really interesting is a lot of companies handicap their employees from even doing this because I don't know if you can use the latest models at Salesforce.”
Speaker
Dan Shipper
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

18 / evaluation

One of the things I learned, which I didn't know is Churchill is a really good writer and he has a whole history of World War II that he wrote and it's like a combination history and memoir. And I think that's so cool because he was there, he did it.

“One of the things I learned, which I didn't know is Churchill is a really good writer and he has a whole history of World War II that he wrote and it's like a combination history and memoir. And I think that's so cool because he was there, he did it.”
Speaker
Dan Shipper
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

19 / recommendation

Recommends War and Peace. Recommends The Death of Ivan Ilyich. Recommends A Swim in a Pond in the Rain. Recommends The Master and His Emissary.

“Well, I already recommended one, which is War and Peace. Definitely got to read that. If you want a like Tolstoy primer, I would read The Death of Ivan Ilyich. Another good one is A Swim in a Pond in the Rain, which is by George Saunders, and that's a collection of Russian short stories that is also about writing. And in particular, I really like the Russians because a lot of the Russian novelists are dealing with the effects of technology on the traditional Russian way of life, and they're very kind of in this really interesting middle ground between a sort of romantic outlook on the world and a more rationalist like, " We're progressing, we're making progress." And that's one of the things you'll find in Anna Karenina, oh, and ... God, what's the guy's ... Levin is out in the fields with the peasants, doing the scythe thing. That's Tolstoy kind of thinking about, "Oh, what would it be like, instead of being a nobleman who's trying to make farms way more efficient, I was just like with my scythe, that was really happy?" Anyway, so they're dealing with a lot of similar stuff to, I think AI. The Master and His Emissary is another really good one, and that's about basically how the different hemispheres of the brain view reality. It's really, really good, and I think it relates to a lot of AI stuff too. Yeah, I think those are my three or four. Yeah.”
Speaker
Dan Shipper
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

21 / belief

What it really is, is there's a huge tax to doing something every day that you don't quite like that much, or you're not quite a fit for, and by sort of giving into those secret desires, you end up finding a shape for the work that you do and the business that you build that is good for you, and that's always going to be a somewhat unique shape from other businesses that have been built. It's always going to rhyme with other things, but I think finding that unique shape, instead of just kind of cargo culting, like what you think a company should look like is definitely a much better way to be successful, and it's also a much better way to live.

“What it really is, is there's a huge tax to doing something every day that you don't quite like that much, or you're not quite a fit for, and by sort of giving into those secret desires, you end up finding a shape for the work that you do and the business that you build that is good for you, and that's always going to be a somewhat unique shape from other businesses that have been built. It's always going to rhyme with other things, but I think finding that unique shape, instead of just kind of cargo culting, like what you think a company should look like is definitely a much better way to be successful, and it's also a much better way to live.”
Speaker
Dan Shipper
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

22 / commitment

A non-technical person can definitely build that. So I think while I will definitely maintain that we're not anywhere close to anybody being able to build a conventional SaaS app with zero programming knowledge, aside from just a demo, there are going to be other forms of software.

“A non-technical person can definitely build that. So I think while I will definitely maintain that we're not anywhere close to anybody being able to build a conventional SaaS app with zero programming knowledge, aside from just a demo, there are going to be other forms of software.”
Speaker
Dan Shipper
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

24 / belief

Honestly, I think that the most useful thing for someone like me, based on what I want to do, is I want people to find interesting, cool ways to use AI that actually helps make their lives better.

“Honestly, I think that the most useful thing for someone like me, based on what I want to do, is I want people to find interesting, cool ways to use AI that actually helps make their lives better.”
Speaker
Dan Shipper
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

25 / belief

Another thing that they do, which I think is very cool, is they use a bunch of Claudes at once, but then they're also using three other agents.

“Another thing that they do, which I think is very cool, is they use a bunch of Claudes at once, but then they're also using three other agents.”
Speaker
Dan Shipper
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

26 / prediction

," because I think that'll be the case for a lot of other people, and I think that's kind of the best method, I think, to do these sorts of predictions, is you have to be doing it all the time yourself, and then that informs your opinion about this stuff.

“," because I think that'll be the case for a lot of other people, and I think that's kind of the best method, I think, to do these sorts of predictions, is you have to be doing it all the time yourself, and then that informs your opinion about this stuff.”
Speaker
Dan Shipper
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

28 / evaluation

" But I'm talking about more than that, more widespread adoption of agents that work all the time. And I like the profitable thing, because if it costs a little bit of money and the bar is profitability, it has to actually be doing something useful for you to keep it on.

“" But I'm talking about more than that, more widespread adoption of agents that work all the time. And I like the profitable thing, because if it costs a little bit of money and the bar is profitability, it has to actually be doing something useful for you to keep it on.”
Speaker
Dan Shipper
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

29 / preference

Another good one is A Swim in a Pond in the Rain, which is by George Saunders, and that's a collection of Russian short stories that is also about writing. And in particular, I really like the Russians because a lot of the Russian novelists are dealing with the effects of technology on the traditional Russian way of life, and they're very kind of in this really interesting middle ground between a sort of romantic outlook on the world and a more rationalist like, " We're progressing, we're making progress.

“Another good one is A Swim in a Pond in the Rain, which is by George Saunders, and that's a collection of Russian short stories that is also about writing. And in particular, I really like the Russians because a lot of the Russian novelists are dealing with the effects of technology on the traditional Russian way of life, and they're very kind of in this really interesting middle ground between a sort of romantic outlook on the world and a more rationalist like, " We're progressing, we're making progress.”
Speaker
Dan Shipper
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

30 / recommendation

" Create this sort of awareness and momentum, because going back to the point I made earlier, about 10% of people are early adopters, those are the people inside of a company that you need to find and highlight because they're going to just go spend all this time figuring out what works, and then all you have to do is translate what they learn into the rest of the organization.

“" Create this sort of awareness and momentum, because going back to the point I made earlier, about 10% of people are early adopters, those are the people inside of a company that you need to find and highlight because they're going to just go spend all this time figuring out what works, and then all you have to do is translate what they learn into the rest of the organization.”
Speaker
Dan Shipper
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

32 / evaluation

Versus, I don't know, Claude is a slightly different style. And I think all of that is so interesting that these things have personalities, and that that changes what you might want to use it for or why you might want to use three of them at once.

“Versus, I don't know, Claude is a slightly different style. And I think all of that is so interesting that these things have personalities, and that that changes what you might want to use it for or why you might want to use three of them at once.”
Speaker
Dan Shipper
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

34 / evaluation

Because one of the interesting things about AI is it's such a general purpose technology, and I think people who work inside companies, 10% of them are like, I'm super curious about this.

“Because one of the interesting things about AI is it's such a general purpose technology, and I think people who work inside companies, 10% of them are like, I'm super curious about this.”
Speaker
Dan Shipper
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

35 / preference

Gemini just came out with something, so I'm very excited to try that because I think that's the model that we use most for the apps that we build, inside the apps.

“Gemini just came out with something, so I'm very excited to try that because I think that's the model that we use most for the apps that we build, inside the apps.”
Speaker
Dan Shipper
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast
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