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24 May 2026 Lenny's Podcast The AI paradox: More automation, more humans, more work | Dan Shipper
“I think there's too much of I'm doing this because I have FOMO, I might lose my job or I might miss out on this big thing or whatever.”
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- 24 May 2026
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- Lenny's Podcast
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…How about we end with maybe just a few things listeners should do to be successful over the next year with the way the world is moving. Ride the models. I would try all of your workflows in Codex or Cowork and see how that works. And if your company doesn't let you do it on your own time, I would try out some of these agent products like OpenClaw or Hermes or for less technical people, there's like Victor, we have OnePlus ones. I would get comfortable with both of those ways of working and try to have fun. I think there's too much of I'm doing this because I have FOMO, I might lose my job or I might miss out on this big thing or whatever. And the best way to actually figure out interesting, useful things to do with AI is to do something enjoyable. Nikhil Singal was on the podcast and the way he described it is you got to find your moment of joy with AI once you find like, "Wow, I can't believe AI did this for me. This is awesome. We're going to keep building stuff."…
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