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Daniel Kokotajlo

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02 / belief

Think that I mean, there's probably some of that there to some extent, for sure. But at least my experience at OpenAI was that there was more pressure to not talk about the risks in public and to downplay that sort of thing.

“Think that I mean, there's probably some of that there to some extent, for sure. But at least my experience at OpenAI was that there was more pressure to not talk about the risks in public and to downplay that sort of thing.”
Publisher
Machine Learning Street Talk

04 / belief

I mean, would say, in some sense, arguably, we're already seeing a move away from LLMs with things like these so called reasoning agents that have access to tools and can write code and so forth. So there's going to be this continuous shift towards, I would say, rather than, like, discrete paradigm shifts, it'll be more like a continuous paradigm shift.

“I mean, would say, in some sense, arguably, we're already seeing a move away from LLMs with things like these so called reasoning agents that have access to tools and can write code and so forth. So there's going to be this continuous shift towards, I would say, rather than, like, discrete paradigm shifts, it'll be more like a continuous paradigm shift.”
Publisher
Machine Learning Street Talk

06 / belief

Don't know about the second 2 the other 2, but definitely the first 1. I think that if somehow we could coordinate on that, that'd be great.

“Don't know about the second 2 the other 2, but definitely the first 1. I think that if somehow we could coordinate on that, that'd be great.”
Publisher
Machine Learning Street Talk

07 / belief

Claude plus code interpreter and things like that. And I think that that system could solve tariff and things like that because Claude might be smart enough to look up the algorithm and then implement the algorithm and then do it.

“Claude plus code interpreter and things like that. And I think that that system could solve tariff and things like that because Claude might be smart enough to look up the algorithm and then implement the algorithm and then do it.”
Publisher
Machine Learning Street Talk

09 / belief

We're working on it. I agree with the problem you're pointing out. We currently have a project to make a good ending, so to speak, at a similar level of detail to what we already have.

“We're working on it. I agree with the problem you're pointing out. We currently have a project to make a good ending, so to speak, at a similar level of detail to what we already have.”
Publisher
Machine Learning Street Talk

14 / belief

If I could just double click on that; go back to 2015 and I think the way people typically thought, including myself, thought that we’d get to AGI would be kind of like the RL on video games thing that was happening.

“If I could just double click on that; go back to 2015 and I think the way people typically thought, including myself, thought that we’d get to AGI would be kind of like the RL on video games thing that was happening.”
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

15 / belief

I think that if you want a contrast, some people in the past have proposed much faster scenarios where they email some cloud lab and start building nanotech right away by just using their brains to figure out appropriate protein folding and stuff like that.

“I think that if you want a contrast, some people in the past have proposed much faster scenarios where they email some cloud lab and start building nanotech right away by just using their brains to figure out appropriate protein folding and stuff like that.”
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

18 / belief

I think what you’re saying is maybe this whole process just goes off the rails due to lack of contact with ground truth outside in the actual world, outside the data centers.

“I think what you’re saying is maybe this whole process just goes off the rails due to lack of contact with ground truth outside in the actual world, outside the data centers.”
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

19 / belief

I think that if the government wades in and tries to make more specific regulations along the lines of what you mentioned, it’s very plausible that it’ll end up backfiring for reasons like what you mentioned.

“I think that if the government wades in and tries to make more specific regulations along the lines of what you mentioned, it’s very plausible that it’ll end up backfiring for reasons like what you mentioned.”
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

20 / belief

Even though they have less compute, even though they have less researchers, they’re able to do fewer experiments. So yeah, I think that there are tons of examples throughout history, including recent relevant AGI history, of things in the other way.

“Even though they have less compute, even though they have less researchers, they’re able to do fewer experiments. So yeah, I think that there are tons of examples throughout history, including recent relevant AGI history, of things in the other way.”
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast
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