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Sam Altman on Trust, Persuasion, and the Future of Intelligence - Live at the Progress Conference

5 Nov 2025 35 published claims 2 attributable people

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belief 16prediction 7recommendation 3uncertainty 3evaluation 3commitment 2preference 1

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01 / preference

The cost of screen up is higher, so I like to spend more time getting to know the people before saying, “Okay, you’re just going to do this, and I’ll trust that it’ll work out.

“The cost of screen up is higher, so I like to spend more time getting to know the people before saying, “Okay, you’re just going to do this, and I’ll trust that it’ll work out.”
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Sam Altman
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

05 / uncertainty

I don’t know what the right answer is yet, but my naive take is we should try to solve this problem urgently for people using rogue internet resources, and AI will just be a worse version of that problem.

“I don’t know what the right answer is yet, but my naive take is we should try to solve this problem urgently for people using rogue internet resources, and AI will just be a worse version of that problem.”
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Sam Altman
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

07 / belief

There’s a lot of arguments I’m tempted to give, but I think the intellectually most interesting one is we have no idea how much past human-level intelligence can go and what you can do with it as it does.

“There’s a lot of arguments I’m tempted to give, but I think the intellectually most interesting one is we have no idea how much past human-level intelligence can go and what you can do with it as it does.”
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Sam Altman
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

12 / belief

You’re the economist, not me, but I think there is some price point at a given level of safety where the demand for this will be overwhelming.

“You’re the economist, not me, but I think there is some price point at a given level of safety where the demand for this will be overwhelming.”
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Sam Altman
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

13 / belief

On the other hand, if ChatGPT shows you it’s guessed the best hotel, whatever that is, and then if you book it with one click, takes the same cut that it would take from any other hotel, and there’s nothing that influenced it, but there’s some sort of transaction fee, I think that’s probably okay.

“On the other hand, if ChatGPT shows you it’s guessed the best hotel, whatever that is, and then if you book it with one click, takes the same cut that it would take from any other hotel, and there’s nothing that influenced it, but there’s some sort of transaction fee, I think that’s probably okay.”
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Sam Altman
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

14 / belief

I think the most important thing AI will do is discover new science for all of us, and a lot of people will benefit from that, and people will start companies or get jobs doing that.

“I think the most important thing AI will do is discover new science for all of us, and a lot of people will benefit from that, and people will start companies or get jobs doing that.”
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Sam Altman
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

15 / uncertainty

Look, I don’t know if this is going to turn out to be a good sign or a bad sign, but our chip team feels more like the OpenAI research team than a chip company.

“Look, I don’t know if this is going to turn out to be a good sign or a bad sign, but our chip team feels more like the OpenAI research team than a chip company.”
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Sam Altman
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

19 / belief

One thing I believe in general related to this is that margins are going to go dramatically down on most goods and services, including things like hotel bookings.

“One thing I believe in general related to this is that margins are going to go dramatically down on most goods and services, including things like hotel bookings.”
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Sam Altman
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

21 / belief

The related thing, in the same way that people always want more energy if it’s cheaper, I think people will always want more compute if it’s cheaper.

“The related thing, in the same way that people always want more energy if it’s cheaper, I think people will always want more compute if it’s cheaper.”
Speaker
Sam Altman
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

23 / prediction

I guess, given the magnitude of what I expect AI economic impact to look like, I do think the government ends up as the insurer of last resort, but I think I mean that in a different way than you mean that, and I don’t expect them to actually be writing the policies in the way that maybe they do for nuclear.

“I guess, given the magnitude of what I expect AI economic impact to look like, I do think the government ends up as the insurer of last resort, but I think I mean that in a different way than you mean that, and I don’t expect them to actually be writing the policies in the way that maybe they do for nuclear.”
Speaker
Sam Altman
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

26 / prediction

I suspect there is something new to build that is going to replace a lot of the current office, productivity suite, whatever you think of docs, slides, email, Slack, whatever, that will be the AI-driven version of all of these things, not where you tack on the horrible — you accidentally click the wrong place and it tries to write a whole document for you or summarize some thread or whatever, but the actual version of you are trusting your AI agent and my AI agent to work most stuff out and escalate to us when necessary.

“I suspect there is something new to build that is going to replace a lot of the current office, productivity suite, whatever you think of docs, slides, email, Slack, whatever, that will be the AI-driven version of all of these things, not where you tack on the horrible — you accidentally click the wrong place and it tries to write a whole document for you or summarize some thread or whatever, but the actual version of you are trusting your AI agent and my AI agent to work most stuff out and escalate to us when necessary.”
Speaker
Sam Altman
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

28 / prediction

I was going to say, I don’t want to say GPT, whether it’s 6 or 7, but I think we will get to something where you will say, “This is not a long way to the very best, but this is like a real poet’s okay poem.

“I was going to say, I don’t want to say GPT, whether it’s 6 or 7, but I think we will get to something where you will say, “This is not a long way to the very best, but this is like a real poet’s okay poem.”
Speaker
Sam Altman
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

30 / prediction

” There’s this other category, third category, that gets very little talk, that I think is much scarier and more interesting, which is the AI models accidentally take over the world.

“” There’s this other category, third category, that gets very little talk, that I think is much scarier and more interesting, which is the AI models accidentally take over the world.”
Speaker
Sam Altman
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

32 / evaluation

I kind of dashed this tweet off and closed my computer, and it didn’t even hit my mind that it was going to be, really, a firestorm. It was that we made a decision, which I also think was a fair one, over the summer, that because there were new problems, and that particularly because we wanted to protect teenage users, we were going to heavily restrict ChatGPT, which is also always a very unpopular thing to do, and along with the rolling out of age-gating and some of these mental health mitigations, we were going to bring back and in some cases increase freedom of use for adults.

“I kind of dashed this tweet off and closed my computer, and it didn’t even hit my mind that it was going to be, really, a firestorm. It was that we made a decision, which I also think was a fair one, over the summer, that because there were new problems, and that particularly because we wanted to protect teenage users, we were going to heavily restrict ChatGPT, which is also always a very unpopular thing to do, and along with the rolling out of age-gating and some of these mental health mitigations, we were going to bring back and in some cases increase freedom of use for adults.”
Speaker
Sam Altman
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

33 / prediction

I think we’re really great at finding new things to do, new games to play, new ways to be useful to each other, to compete, to get fulfilled, whatever, but I do put a significant probability that the social contract has to change significantly.

“I think we’re really great at finding new things to do, new games to play, new ways to be useful to each other, to compete, to get fulfilled, whatever, but I do put a significant probability that the social contract has to change significantly.”
Speaker
Sam Altman
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

34 / prediction

We are going to try to make you a new kind of computer with a completely new kind of interface that is meant for AI, which I think wants something completely different than the computing paradigm we’ve been using for the last 50 years that we’re currently stuck in.

“We are going to try to make you a new kind of computer with a completely new kind of interface that is meant for AI, which I think wants something completely different than the computing paradigm we’ve been using for the last 50 years that we’re currently stuck in.”
Speaker
Sam Altman
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

35 / recommendation

Why don’t you go discover a cure for every disease, nuclear fusion, cheap rockets, the whole thing, and just license that technology?” It is not an unfair question because I believe that is the stuff that we will do that will be most important and make the most money eventually, but my story, my most likely story about how this works, how the world gets dramatically better, is we put a really great superintelligence in the hands of everybody.

“Why don’t you go discover a cure for every disease, nuclear fusion, cheap rockets, the whole thing, and just license that technology?” It is not an unfair question because I believe that is the stuff that we will do that will be most important and make the most money eventually, but my story, my most likely story about how this works, how the world gets dramatically better, is we put a really great superintelligence in the hands of everybody.”
Speaker
Sam Altman
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler
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