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Andrew Sullivan on Braving New Intellectual Journeys

11 Aug 2021 21 published claims 2 attributable people
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Andrew SullivanTyler Cowen

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21 published records

01 / belief

I think the experience of having had an opportunity to avoid a catastrophe and then walking right into it is potentially much more emotionally and psychologically traumatizing than just having something happen to you that you had no warning for, and that you couldn’t have prepared for but which knocked you out — the way New Yorkers I think were traumatized by 9/11 or indeed the first wave of COVID.

“I think the experience of having had an opportunity to avoid a catastrophe and then walking right into it is potentially much more emotionally and psychologically traumatizing than just having something happen to you that you had no warning for, and that you couldn’t have prepared for but which knocked you out — the way New Yorkers I think were traumatized by 9/11 or indeed the first wave of COVID.”
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05 / belief

I think that’s why, maybe, having known that side of Boris and not being intimately aware — as my peers in England were — of all his shenanigans, of all his lies, of all his corners cut, of all the betrayals that he committed, I didn’t see any of that and experience it.

“I think that’s why, maybe, having known that side of Boris and not being intimately aware — as my peers in England were — of all his shenanigans, of all his lies, of all his corners cut, of all the betrayals that he committed, I didn’t see any of that and experience it.”
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07 / belief

There’s some element in which that works, but in general, when I go to England I do think that it’s pretty successful multiracially. But then I think America is too, because I have a slightly lower expectation, I think, of human nature than most people do — but in general the English and the Americans: pretty easygoing about this.

“There’s some element in which that works, but in general, when I go to England I do think that it’s pretty successful multiracially. But then I think America is too, because I have a slightly lower expectation, I think, of human nature than most people do — but in general the English and the Americans: pretty easygoing about this.”
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08 / belief

I think if you took the lessons of the woke in terms of the inherent conflict between white and nonwhite — the nonwhite world — we’re talking about a major global war.

“I think if you took the lessons of the woke in terms of the inherent conflict between white and nonwhite — the nonwhite world — we’re talking about a major global war.”
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09 / belief

I think that kind of political judgment, which is not to be too driven by ideology in all things, which will allow the possibility of a prudential, pragmatic adjustment, is what Oakeshottian politics is at some point about.

“I think that kind of political judgment, which is not to be too driven by ideology in all things, which will allow the possibility of a prudential, pragmatic adjustment, is what Oakeshottian politics is at some point about.”
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10 / belief

I think politics has often had that kind of dramatic theatrical element to it, and that doesn’t seem to come as naturally to many women as it does to many men.

“I think politics has often had that kind of dramatic theatrical element to it, and that doesn’t seem to come as naturally to many women as it does to many men.”
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11 / belief

I think Biden is more at fault than Obama, even though Obama was much more ferociously opposed, because of his complete embrace of critical race theory and the diversity-equity inclusion agenda across the government and elsewhere, whereas Obama was really very hostile to those things and resisted those things.

“I think Biden is more at fault than Obama, even though Obama was much more ferociously opposed, because of his complete embrace of critical race theory and the diversity-equity inclusion agenda across the government and elsewhere, whereas Obama was really very hostile to those things and resisted those things.”
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12 / evaluation

I’m not helping you very much here, am I, with the — I don’t want to give the impression gay people are somehow more fun, or — I’m just saying you’re more likely to randomly come across someone who’s not part of your scene or your class or your race, for that matter, as a gay person, simply because as a gay man, especially, the sexual and social dynamics are utterly independent of professional, intellectual, or ideological dynamics.

“I’m not helping you very much here, am I, with the — I don’t want to give the impression gay people are somehow more fun, or — I’m just saying you’re more likely to randomly come across someone who’s not part of your scene or your class or your race, for that matter, as a gay person, simply because as a gay man, especially, the sexual and social dynamics are utterly independent of professional, intellectual, or ideological dynamics.”
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13 / evaluation

I think Brexit has been terribly misunderstood by Americans because they conflated it, for understandable reasons, with Trump, and they conflated Boris Johnson with Trump.

“I think Brexit has been terribly misunderstood by Americans because they conflated it, for understandable reasons, with Trump, and they conflated Boris Johnson with Trump.”
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14 / preference

I love thinking about stuff. I think my mind can go down a rabbit hole. This was part of the problem with me for a long time: I had terrible insomnia until I found cannabis in my late 30s.

“I love thinking about stuff. I think my mind can go down a rabbit hole. This was part of the problem with me for a long time: I had terrible insomnia until I found cannabis in my late 30s.”
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15 / recommendation

I watch it every year because it’s just so funny and stupid — and, as a tonic, if you’re weighed down by the world, especially if you’re weighed down by wokeness or the incredibly censorious attitude that we have, it’s just so great to sit down and watch that every now and again and see what they got away with.

“I watch it every year because it’s just so funny and stupid — and, as a tonic, if you’re weighed down by the world, especially if you’re weighed down by wokeness or the incredibly censorious attitude that we have, it’s just so great to sit down and watch that every now and again and see what they got away with.”
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Andrew Sullivan
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17 / evaluation

They have a different perspective. But yes, I find them to be often more questioning, more curious, and more capable of asking basic questions and not taking things for granted than many of my peers, which makes them better, which is why I think journalists are better off coming from ordinary people — like working-class journalists who knew people, who knew reality, weren’t caught up in ideology or orthodoxy or have any interest in their social peers, and were just interested in getting to a story or breaking a story or finding something out, regardless of the consequences.

“They have a different perspective. But yes, I find them to be often more questioning, more curious, and more capable of asking basic questions and not taking things for granted than many of my peers, which makes them better, which is why I think journalists are better off coming from ordinary people — like working-class journalists who knew people, who knew reality, weren’t caught up in ideology or orthodoxy or have any interest in their social peers, and were just interested in getting to a story or breaking a story or finding something out, regardless of the consequences.”
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18 / evaluation

Part of it is being gay, because you inevitably develop a social network that is independent of your professional network because that’s how you socialize in many ways, and from that, you generate a different kind of perspective.

“Part of it is being gay, because you inevitably develop a social network that is independent of your professional network because that’s how you socialize in many ways, and from that, you generate a different kind of perspective.”
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21 / evaluation

Every time they’ve come up to this decision, it looks like you’re going to pass it and they always pull back because, in fact, the arguments for Scottish independence are incredibly weak.

“Every time they’ve come up to this decision, it looks like you’re going to pass it and they always pull back because, in fact, the arguments for Scottish independence are incredibly weak.”
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