Andrew Sullivan: belief

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…So you belong to the faction of woke? [laughs] Tyler. I belong definitely to the faction of people who want to see minorities and people who have been previously marginalized in society being given the full opportunities to become absolutely fine, full, contributing members to our society. You can do that through a liberal system. In fact, I think the liberal system is the best way to do that, the least divisive and the more psychologically productive. In that, if I could find a way to make the world more respectful of those ideas, I would, but wokeness is not about that. It is about the notion that the world is defined by oppression — is not just defined by oppression, but defined by white oppression. I think if you took the lessons of the woke in terms of the inherent conflict between white and nonwhite — the nonwhite world — we’re talking about a major global war. A major, non-zero-sum global conflict, which — it would be a zero-sum conflict in the United States if they really had their druthers. And so no, I’m not woke, not globally, but I do believe — That it has a positive marginal product? It may not be your preferred ideology —…

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