Lex Fridman Podcast / episode intelligence
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38 published records
01 / recommendation
“I love that area of biology. There’s people, there’s a great book by Nick Lane, one of the top experts in this area called The Ten Great Inventions of Evolution.”
02 / evaluation
“You can learn something kind of equally valuable from an experiment that doesn’t work.”
03 / belief
“Definitely. And I think we’ll need new governance structures, institutions probably to help with this transition.”
04 / belief
“We have systems I think that can do incremental hill climbing, and that’s a kind of bigger question about is that all that’s needed from here, or do we actually need one or two more big breakthroughs.”
05 / belief
“I think that underappreciated art form is the interface design because I think you can not unlock the power of the intelligence of a system if you don’t have the right interface.”
06 / uncertainty
“Protein folding is super fast. I don’t know all the biological mechanisms, but some of them take a long time.”
07 / belief
“I think compute, there’s the amount of compute you have for training, often it needs to be co-located, so actually even bandwidth constraints between data centers can affect that. So there’s additional constraints even there and that’s important for training, obviously the largest models you can, but there’s also because now AI systems are in products and being used by billions of people around the world, you need a ton of inference compute now.”
08 / belief
“I think he foresaw a lot of what would happen with learning machines, systems that are grown, I think he called it rather than programmed.”
09 / belief
“I think a lot of people highlight different aspects including the comedic and the mean and all that kind of stuff.”
10 / belief
“In your Nobel Prize lecture, you propose what I think is a super interesting conjecture that “any pattern that can be generated or found in nature can be efficiently discovered and modeled by a classical learning algorithm.”
11 / belief
“A highly creative process that I think just a kind of naive search on top of a model won’t be enough for that.”
12 / observation
“I also just for that purpose on the AI scientist front just broadly, so there’s a essay from Daniel Cocotaglio, Scott Alexander and others that online steps along the way to get to ASI and it has a lot of interesting ideas in it, one of which is including a superhuman coder and a superhuman AI researcher.”
13 / belief
“Sorry to anthropomorphize, but it’s an interesting moment because I think in so many domains it will keep happening.”
14 / belief
“Don’t let the leaders that are warmongers divide us. I think science is the ultimately really beautiful connector.”
15 / belief
“I think to the extent that it can predict the next frames in a coherent way, that is a form of understanding, not in the anthropomorphic version of, it’s not some kind of deep philosophical understanding of what’s going on, I don’t think these systems have that, but they certainly have modeled enough of the dynamics, put it that way, that they can pretty accurately generate whatever it is, eight seconds of consistent video that by eye, at least at a glance, is quite hard to distinguish what the issues are.”
16 / uncertainty
“I don’t know if it’s our intelligence, it could be something else, that other thing that’s outside the mad dreams of reason.”
17 / belief
“Yeah, I hope there’s some collaboration on stuff that’s less high stakes and in so doing, serves as a mechanism for maintaining friendships and relationships. So for example, I think the internet would love it if you and Elon somehow collaborate on creating a video game, that kind of thing.”
18 / belief
“New types of solar material, solar panel material room temperature superconductors has always been on my list of dream breakthroughs, and optimal batteries. And I think a solution to any one of those things would be absolutely revolutionary for climate and energy usage.”
19 / belief
“AlphaGenome predicts how small genetic changes if we think about single mutations, how they link to actual function.”
20 / belief
“I think you’re having more and more fun on Twitter, on X, which is great to see.”
21 / belief
“Partly because I think there’s enough data, and it’s been proven to get the systems to be pretty good.”
22 / belief
“Then maybe he got inspired by what AlphaGo was doing to then conjure this incredible inspirational moment, captured very well in the documentary about it. And I think that’ll continue in many domains where there’s this, at least again for the foreseeable future, of the humans bringing in their ingenuity and asking the right question, let’s say, and then utilizing these tools in a way that then cracks a problem.”
23 / belief
“Actually, I think we’re going to enter an era of AI-generated interfaces that are probably personalized to you, so it fits the way that you, your aesthetic, your feel, the way that your brain works and the AI kind of generates that depending on the task.”
24 / belief
“I think that’s one of the great mysteries. I think ultimately what we’ll figure out is their continuum.”
25 / belief
“I agree with you. I think that’s beautifully put. You’ve said that you talk to and are on good terms with the leads of some of these labs.”
26 / prediction
“I wonder if it will take something like a Move 37, so on the positive side versus a barrage of 10,000 cognitive tasks where it’ll be one or two where it’s like, holy shit, this is special.”
27 / belief
“Then he says, “I as an artist can see how beautiful this is, but you as a scientist take this all apart and it becomes a dull thing,” and I think that’s kind of nutty.”
28 / belief
“I agree and I would love to see a lot of people, all of the other labs talk about science, but I think we’re really the only ones using it for science and doing that.”
29 / evaluation
“Proteins fold in milliseconds in our bodies, so somehow physics solves this problem that we’ve now also solved computationally. And I think the reason that’s possible is that in nature, natural systems have structure because they were subject to evolutionary processes that shape them.”
30 / preference
“There’s this notion that you can only understand the physical world by having an embodied AI system, a robot that interacts with that world. That’s the only way to construct an understanding of that world.”
31 / preference
“I would say I’m not sure it’s even desirable because that’s a kind of hard takeoff scenario.”
32 / recommendation
“What you want to be able to do is potentially anything in that game environment. And I think the only way you can do that is to have generated systems, systems that will generate that on the fly.”
33 / uncertainty
“Some things may turn out to be, and hopefully way easier than we thought, but it may be there’s some really hard problems that are harder than we guessed today, and I think we don’t know that for sure.”
34 / evaluation
“Of course people arguing about that now and mind’s quite a high bar and always has been of can we match the cognitive functions that the brain has? So we know our brains are pretty much general Turing machines approximate, and of course we created incredible modern civilization with our minds.”
35 / evaluation
“Along with relentless shipping of that progress is being very successful and it’s unbelievably competitive, the whole space, the whole AI space, with some of the greatest entrepreneurs and leaders and companies in the world, all competing now because everyone’s realized how important AI is.”
36 / evaluation
“I should say that I think a lot of people see DeepMind as a really great place to do cutting-edge work for the reasons that you’ve outlined.”
37 / evaluation
“” All this, I think, teaches us that everything is a matter of perspective and that wisdom may arrive if we have the humility to keep shifting and expanding our perspective on the world.”
38 / evaluation
“Because then it veers more from just engineering to true research, and research plus engineering, and that’s our sweet spot and I think that’s harder.”