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Lex Fridman: belief

23 Jul 2025 Lex Fridman Podcast #475 – Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

“I think a lot of people highlight different aspects including the comedic and the mean and all that kind of stuff.”

— Lex Fridman

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Lex Fridman
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23 Jul 2025
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Lex Fridman Podcast

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…Yes, exactly. I mean fluid dynamics, Navier-Stokes equations, these are traditionally thought of as very, very difficult, intractable kind of problems to do on classical systems. They take enormous amounts of compute, weather prediction systems. These kind of things all involve fluid dynamics calculations. But again, if you look at something like Veo, our video generation model, it can model liquids quite well, surprisingly well. And materials, specular lighting, I love the ones where there’s people who generate videos where there’s clear liquids going through hydraulic presses and then it’s being squeezed out. I used to write physics engines and graphics engines in my early days in gaming, and I know it’s just so painstakingly hard to build programs that can do that. And yet somehow these systems are reverse engineering from just watching YouTube videos. So presumably what’s happening is it’s extracting some underlying structure around how these materials behave. So perhaps there is some kind of lower dimensional manifold that can be learned if we actually fully understood what’s going on under the hood. That’s maybe true of most of reality. Yeah, I’ve been continuously precisely by this aspect of Veo 3. I think a lot of people highlight different aspects including the comedic and the mean and all that kind of stuff. And then the ultra realistic ability to capture humans in a really nice way that’s compelling and feels close to reality, and then combine that with native audio. All of those are marvelous things about Veo 3, but exactly the thing you’re mentioning, which is the physics. Yeah.…

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