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Lex Fridman: belief

23 Jul 2025 Lex Fridman Podcast #475 – Demis Hassabis: Future of AI, Simulating Reality, Physics and Video Games

“I think that underappreciated art form is the interface design because I think you can not unlock the power of the intelligence of a system if you don’t have the right interface.”

— Lex Fridman

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Lex Fridman
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belief
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23 Jul 2025
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Lex Fridman Podcast

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…Yeah, I mean typing is a very low bandwidth way of doing it, even if you’re a very fast typer. And I think we’re going to have to start utilizing other devices, whether that’s smart glasses, audio earbuds, and eventually maybe some sorts of neural devices, where we can increase the input and the output bandwidth to something maybe a 100x of what is today. I think that underappreciated art form is the interface design because I think you can not unlock the power of the intelligence of a system if you don’t have the right interface. The interface is really the way you unlock its power. It’s such an interesting question of how to do that. So how you would think getting out of the way isn’t real art form. Yes. It’s the sort of thing that I guess Steve Jobs always talked about, right? It’s simplicity, beauty, and elegance that we want. And we’re not that nobody’s there yet, in my opinion. And that’s what I would like us to get to. Again, it sort of speaks to Go again as a game, the most elegant, beautiful game. Can you make an interface as beautiful as that? Actually, I think we’re going to enter an era of AI-generated interfaces that are probably personalized to you, so it fits the way that you, your aesthetic, your feel, the way that your brain works and the AI kind of generates that depending on the task. That feels like that’s probably the direction we’ll end up in.…

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