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Jonathan Haidt on Adjusting to Smartphones and Social Media

3 Apr 2024 23 published claims 2 attributable people

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03 / belief

My argument is that the virtual life, the phone-based life is blocking that, so it’s not like they’re going to be able to grow up without that stuff. I think your argument is that AI will play the role of whatever the Aztecs did.

“My argument is that the virtual life, the phone-based life is blocking that, so it’s not like they’re going to be able to grow up without that stuff. I think your argument is that AI will play the role of whatever the Aztecs did.”
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Jonathan Haidt
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04 / observation

” To which I say, “Yes, can you imagine if the only way they could connect was by calling them up on the phone or texting them, or Skype or Zoom or FaceTime, or multiplayer video games or many, many other ways that the internet allows you to connect.

“” To which I say, “Yes, can you imagine if the only way they could connect was by calling them up on the phone or texting them, or Skype or Zoom or FaceTime, or multiplayer video games or many, many other ways that the internet allows you to connect.”
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Jonathan Haidt
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05 / observation

You want to please your customers. But the point is, let’s say Meta has a 1 percent failure rate in trying to do this, which would be an amazingly good performance.

“You want to please your customers. But the point is, let’s say Meta has a 1 percent failure rate in trying to do this, which would be an amazingly good performance.”
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Tyler Cowen
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13 / belief

You may be right. I think I’m right that we’re going into a dip. It’s gigantic in terms of mental health impact, suicide rates, self-harm, hospitalizations, missed potential.

“You may be right. I think I’m right that we’re going into a dip. It’s gigantic in terms of mental health impact, suicide rates, self-harm, hospitalizations, missed potential.”
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Jonathan Haidt
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14 / evaluation

17 with depression, anxiety, and self-harm. So, the effect is actually much bigger than many people realize in the scientific community because you have to zoom in on girls and social media.

“17 with depression, anxiety, and self-harm. So, the effect is actually much bigger than many people realize in the scientific community because you have to zoom in on girls and social media.”
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Jonathan Haidt
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Conversations with Tyler

15 / preference

If you’re suggesting that we could outsource all of that bad stuff to AI so that kids don’t actually have to know what’s going on in their friend’s life — they don’t have to keep up with who said what to whom because they’re never going to actually meet their friend in person — then I would say, maybe that could work because we’re all just alone in a room.

“If you’re suggesting that we could outsource all of that bad stuff to AI so that kids don’t actually have to know what’s going on in their friend’s life — they don’t have to keep up with who said what to whom because they’re never going to actually meet their friend in person — then I would say, maybe that could work because we’re all just alone in a room.”
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Jonathan Haidt
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Conversations with Tyler

17 / recommendation

I think that you can’t just be a programmer alone, that the nature of companies now is not that you do it in your dorm room at Harvard, but it requires synthetic abilities.

“I think that you can’t just be a programmer alone, that the nature of companies now is not that you do it in your dorm room at Harvard, but it requires synthetic abilities.”
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Tyler Cowen
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18 / preference

I think we agree that if we could liberate the kids from that so that they could really spend a lot more time hanging out together unsupervised, they would be better off.

“I think we agree that if we could liberate the kids from that so that they could really spend a lot more time hanging out together unsupervised, they would be better off.”
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Jonathan Haidt
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Conversations with Tyler

19 / evaluation

First, I believe the Time Use studies don’t count school time as time with friends because what they’re trying to do is like, how much time you’re in school, how much time you’re sleeping, how much time you’re eating, how much time you’re playing with friends.

“First, I believe the Time Use studies don’t count school time as time with friends because what they’re trying to do is like, how much time you’re in school, how much time you’re sleeping, how much time you’re eating, how much time you’re playing with friends.”
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Jonathan Haidt
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Conversations with Tyler

20 / evaluation

Over and over again, whether we look at left-right or whether we look at religion, what we find is that it’s the secular kids and the liberal kids who got washed out to sea, got really depressed after 2012, and much less effect on the conservative and religious kids because, I think, they’re more rooted.

“Over and over again, whether we look at left-right or whether we look at religion, what we find is that it’s the secular kids and the liberal kids who got washed out to sea, got really depressed after 2012, and much less effect on the conservative and religious kids because, I think, they’re more rooted.”
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Jonathan Haidt
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Conversations with Tyler

21 / evaluation

What I would say is that every culture needs a set of stories and moral values, moral principles and metaphors so that they can speak to each other, and they can quickly refer to things that have a lot of meanings for the listener.

“What I would say is that every culture needs a set of stories and moral values, moral principles and metaphors so that they can speak to each other, and they can quickly refer to things that have a lot of meanings for the listener.”
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Jonathan Haidt
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Conversations with Tyler

22 / evaluation

” By the time I wrote chapter 7 and 8 of The Righteous Mind and really committed to understanding conservatives and libertarians, I realized, wow, there’s a lot of wisdom from all three perspectives: liberal, conservative, and libertarian.

“” By the time I wrote chapter 7 and 8 of The Righteous Mind and really committed to understanding conservatives and libertarians, I realized, wow, there’s a lot of wisdom from all three perspectives: liberal, conservative, and libertarian.”
Speaker
Jonathan Haidt
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Conversations with Tyler
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