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Jonathan Haidt: uncertainty

3 Apr 2024 Conversations with Tyler Jonathan Haidt on Adjusting to Smartphones and Social Media

“I think I see what you’re saying now, but I think your view would say, “Just for some reason we don’t know, things changed around 2012.”

— Jonathan Haidt

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Speaker
Jonathan Haidt
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uncertainty
Recorded
3 Apr 2024
Publisher
Conversations with Tyler

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…First, across countries, it’s mostly the Anglosphere and the Nordic countries, which are more or less part of the Anglosphere. Most of the world is immune to this, and smartphones for them seem fine. Why isn’t it just that a negative mood came upon the Anglosphere for reasons we mostly don’t understand, and it didn’t come upon most of the rest of the world? If we’re differentiating my hypothesis from yours, doesn’t that favor my view? Well, once you look into the connections and the timing, I would say no. I think I see what you’re saying now, but I think your view would say, “Just for some reason we don’t know, things changed around 2012. ” Whereas I’m going to say, “Okay, things changed around 2012 in all these countries. We see it in the mental illness rates, especially of the girls.” I’m going to say it’s not just some mood thing. It’s like (a), why is it especially the girls? (b) — They’re more mimetic, right?…

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