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How to measure and improve developer productivity | Nicole Forsgren (Microsoft Research, GitHub, Google)

30 Jul 2023 17 published claims 2 attributable people

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01 / recommendation

Recommends Good Strategy Bad Strategy. Recommends Designing Your Life. Recommends Ender's Game.

“We actually had the perfect segue because the book I've recommended absolutely the most is called Good Strategy Bad Strategy by Richard Rumelt. Another one is Designing Your Life by Bill Burnett and Dave Abbott... Dave Evans. And the last one is probably Ender's Game, Orson Scott Card. No comment right now on some of his political commentary, but I used to have extra copies in my office when I was a professor and I would just hand it out to my students. It's a fun, just easy nonsense read, but...”
Speaker
Nicole Forsgren
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

03 / belief

I think we're going to help a lot of companies move faster, have better and happier engineers, which is going to create infinite value in the world.

“I think we're going to help a lot of companies move faster, have better and happier engineers, which is going to create infinite value in the world.”
Speaker
Lenny Rachitsky
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

05 / belief

I think one of my superpowers and one of the things that I've been working with my teams on doing and kind of teaching them is, and one of the things that's really leveled up our work in general, is making your work incredibly accessible.

“I think one of my superpowers and one of the things that I've been working with my teams on doing and kind of teaching them is, and one of the things that's really leveled up our work in general, is making your work incredibly accessible.”
Speaker
Nicole Forsgren
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

08 / recommendation

We actually had the perfect segue because the book I've recommended absolutely the most is called Good Strategy Bad Strategy by Richard Rumelt.

“We actually had the perfect segue because the book I've recommended absolutely the most is called Good Strategy Bad Strategy by Richard Rumelt.”
Speaker
Nicole Forsgren
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

09 / recommendation

Make sure you pick metrics that are intention. And I could say it, but people have a hard time wrapping that around their heads because they kept picking things like number of lines of code, never picked number of lines of code.

“Make sure you pick metrics that are intention. And I could say it, but people have a hard time wrapping that around their heads because they kept picking things like number of lines of code, never picked number of lines of code.”
Speaker
Nicole Forsgren
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

10 / preference

There's no such thing as not being in the cloud because if you cannot make it through bursting on demand, bursting like magic, sometimes I joke, right, you're not going to make it.

“There's no such thing as not being in the cloud because if you cannot make it through bursting on demand, bursting like magic, sometimes I joke, right, you're not going to make it.”
Speaker
Nicole Forsgren
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

11 / observation

Will I have an over-reliance on it? And what we're seeing is that, probably unsurprisingly, people really fundamentally shift the way they work when they work with an AI-enabled tool like GitHub, Copilot, or Tabnine or others because now, instead of just writing code or having a short auto-complete, you spend more time reviewing code than writing code, right.

“Will I have an over-reliance on it? And what we're seeing is that, probably unsurprisingly, people really fundamentally shift the way they work when they work with an AI-enabled tool like GitHub, Copilot, or Tabnine or others because now, instead of just writing code or having a short auto-complete, you spend more time reviewing code than writing code, right.”
Speaker
Nicole Forsgren
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

12 / evaluation

We actually had a SaaS offering, so we continued the State of DevOps Report just under the DORA banner, and we had a SaaS offering because so many large companies were like, "I want my own customized measurement, reading, and report.

“We actually had a SaaS offering, so we continued the State of DevOps Report just under the DORA banner, and we had a SaaS offering because so many large companies were like, "I want my own customized measurement, reading, and report.”
Speaker
Nicole Forsgren
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

13 / commitment

I also had a master's in accounting because that really helped me make that kind of financial tie and understanding financial statements. And then, after a handful of years kind of walked away from tenure because academia was not convinced that DevOps was a thing, right, that DevOps wasn't real, and State of DevOps Report who I was doing with DORA, DevOps research and assessment in collaboration with Jez Humble and Gene Kim.

“I also had a master's in accounting because that really helped me make that kind of financial tie and understanding financial statements. And then, after a handful of years kind of walked away from tenure because academia was not convinced that DevOps was a thing, right, that DevOps wasn't real, and State of DevOps Report who I was doing with DORA, DevOps research and assessment in collaboration with Jez Humble and Gene Kim.”
Speaker
Nicole Forsgren
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

14 / commitment

" I wrote a book called Accelerate, which is the first four years of the research compiled and put together and expanded in a few things.

“" I wrote a book called Accelerate, which is the first four years of the research compiled and put together and expanded in a few things.”
Speaker
Nicole Forsgren
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

15 / evaluation

That's also a lie. So I think there are better ways to think about and deal with that and then try to work with it because and I wrote a paper with Mik Kersten on this several years ago on how data from people and data from systems are really important compliments because we can get certain insights from people that we'll never get from systems.

“That's also a lie. So I think there are better ways to think about and deal with that and then try to work with it because and I wrote a paper with Mik Kersten on this several years ago on how data from people and data from systems are really important compliments because we can get certain insights from people that we'll never get from systems.”
Speaker
Nicole Forsgren
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

16 / preference

If I turn this into a sentence, what do they represent?" And then you want to double check because spurious correlation's one of my favorite websites instead of charts.

“If I turn this into a sentence, what do they represent?" And then you want to double check because spurious correlation's one of my favorite websites instead of charts.”
Speaker
Nicole Forsgren
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

17 / preference

I will say I write things down because I get asked them so often, and I want to make sure it is broadly applicable or broadly available, I guess.

“I will say I write things down because I get asked them so often, and I want to make sure it is broadly applicable or broadly available, I guess.”
Speaker
Nicole Forsgren
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast
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