other / uses
Exa
“So Brave is the one that ships with OpenClaw. I use Exa just because I already have an Exa account. You use Perplexity.”
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other / uses
“So Brave is the one that ships with OpenClaw. I use Exa just because I already have an Exa account. You use Perplexity.”
tool / uses
“I use iTerm, but you can open your terminal and then you just paste it in, press enter, and I already have Homebrew and some dependencies installed. And so it's going to install OpenClaw and then it should drop you into a step- by-step onboarding.”
tool / uses
“While I don't recommend people edit the soul by hand, it's sometimes really useful to edit the tools document by hand because there's just some nuances in how you might want it to read your calendar or search the web, or I use Linear as tasking kind of substrate for my agents, how you might want it to use Linear. And so the tools markdown file is a really useful one.”
tool / uses
“One, because they're really hardened against prompt injection and some security risks out of the box, and, two, you're just going to get a better experience. So I use a lot of Opus 4.6, Sonnet 4.6 and GPT-5.4.”
tool / uses
“One, because they're really hardened against prompt injection and some security risks out of the box, and, two, you're just going to get a better experience. So I use a lot of Opus 4.6, Sonnet 4.6 and GPT-5.4.”
tool / uses
“One, because they're really hardened against prompt injection and some security risks out of the box, and, two, you're just going to get a better experience. So I use a lot of Opus 4.6, Sonnet 4.6 and GPT-5.4.”
book / recommends
“Yeah, I was thinking about this, and I'm going to talk about a category of books that I've started to recommend to people, which is classic children's books. If you are a parent out there, you know there's so much children's book slop out there, graphic novels with like seven words per page, the writing's atrocious. Even in the older years, it doesn't get better. And we've just started pulling off the shelf Treasure Island. We are reading Alice in Wonderland. We're reading some of the Shakespearean comedies. The language is so much more sophisticated, and my kids still get it, and they still think it's funny. And so I feel like we have dumbed down what we expect of our children, especially in what they consume from a media perspective. And so I'm just going to the classics and we're having a really good time. So I highly recommend pulling some of those classic children's books off the shelf. Even if they feel a little bit more advanced, my kids have been loving them.”
book / recommends
“Yeah, I was thinking about this, and I'm going to talk about a category of books that I've started to recommend to people, which is classic children's books. If you are a parent out there, you know there's so much children's book slop out there, graphic novels with like seven words per page, the writing's atrocious. Even in the older years, it doesn't get better. And we've just started pulling off the shelf Treasure Island. We are reading Alice in Wonderland. We're reading some of the Shakespearean comedies. The language is so much more sophisticated, and my kids still get it, and they still think it's funny. And so I feel like we have dumbed down what we expect of our children, especially in what they consume from a media perspective. And so I'm just going to the classics and we're having a really good time. So I highly recommend pulling some of those classic children's books off the shelf. Even if they feel a little bit more advanced, my kids have been loving them.”
other / recommends
“It's basically a vacation. I saw Poor Things, which if you like capital W weird capital A art, highly recommend Poor Things. The show that I recommend to people, I love Mythic Quest. Everybody references Silicon Valley, but Mythic Quest gets at some of, I was in gaming once, gets at some of my experiences in the technology organizations.”
hardware / likes
“I just want to drive around my living room, Bluey included. And so no Rivian, no Mercedes-Benz, but I really love my Pacifica.”
book / recommends
“High Growth Handbook I love, and I like Scaling People. These are two books that the reason why I recommend them to people is because they have solid playbook answers to 80%, 90% of everyday leadership scaling people questions. And so they're just great reference books for what I think great leadership inside startups can look like, and they solve some of the things that you don't need to solve novel-ly. And then one on the fiction side that I've been recommending is Circe, which is a retelling of Circe's story from her perspective. It's a great read, and everybody I've recommended it to really loves it.”
book / likes
“High Growth Handbook I love, and I like Scaling People. These are two books that the reason why I recommend them to people is because they have solid playbook answers to 80%, 90% of everyday leadership scaling people questions. And so they're just great reference books for what I think great leadership inside startups can look like, and they solve some of the things that you don't need to solve novel-ly. And then one on the fiction side that I've been recommending is Circe, which is a retelling of Circe's story from her perspective. It's a great read, and everybody I've recommended it to really loves it.”
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01 / recommendation
“Yeah, I was thinking about this, and I'm going to talk about a category of books that I've started to recommend to people, which is classic children's books. If you are a parent out there, you know there's so much children's book slop out there, graphic novels with like seven words per page, the writing's atrocious. Even in the older years, it doesn't get better. And we've just started pulling off the shelf Treasure Island. We are reading Alice in Wonderland. We're reading some of the Shakespearean comedies. The language is so much more sophisticated, and my kids still get it, and they still think it's funny. And so I feel like we have dumbed down what we expect of our children, especially in what they consume from a media perspective. And so I'm just going to the classics and we're having a really good time. So I highly recommend pulling some of those classic children's books off the shelf. Even if they feel a little bit more advanced, my kids have been loving them.”
02 / recommendation
“While I don't recommend people edit the soul by hand, it's sometimes really useful to edit the tools document by hand because there's just some nuances in how you might want it to read your calendar or search the web, or I use Linear as tasking kind of substrate for my agents, how you might want it to use Linear.”
03 / uncertainty
“Yeah. And I'll give this tip to some of the big large language model providers out there and these broad consumer products like ChatGPT, like Claude is, I don't know if you've experienced this, you see, for example, working with ChatGPT and every new chat ends with, "If you want me to, I can tell you this mystery, like this next step.”
04 / commitment
“Where people stumble with OpenClaw is they think they can throw any task at a single agent and get great results, and then they get really frustrated. I won't sugarcoat it.”
05 / belief
“Oh, other magic trick that again people might not know is your OpenClaw files are in a hidden folder in Mac. And so I think you press command shift period when you're in Finder, and it'll show you your hidden files.”
06 / uncertainty
“One is a Mac Mini does not have a screen. And I don't know how you manage your Mac Mini.”
07 / belief
“What I think is interesting about OpenClaw, in particular, is one, it's open source, which means you can actually with, pretty little effort, understand what's happening behind the scenes, which is different from a hosted solution or a closed source solution.”
08 / recommendation
“Will it not? And if it can't solve a problem, I think where I've come and I would advise people to do is just walk away from expecting it to solve that problem and give it another problem to solve.”
09 / commitment
“They would be able to see all my public events like any other calendar, any other person in my team would be able to see. And then because Polly, she's my EA, I'm going to share edit access with my calendar so she can drop things on my calendar or remove them or move them around.”
10 / evaluation
“Whoever figures that out, I think is going to have something really special or maybe we'll all have something that we all run and lovingly craft at home, and that will be special too. So I will just say for folks, this has been one of those really intense moments where my eyes open and I think, "Wow, this is going to change my personal life and my professional life in a way I could not have predicted three years ago.”
11 / preference
“I feel like I'm using these things that I built, and that sense of crafting your personal agent experience, as opposed to giving your tasks to a general purpose agent, I think just changes the user agent interaction in a very interesting way.”
12 / prediction
“And so I just think the web is hostile to agents right now. And we're going to have to rethink what is the interface of the web to be more agent friendly because I think we skip ahead a couple years and the number one user of websites are going to be people's agents.”
13 / recommendation
“I use iTerm, but you can open your terminal and then you just paste it in, press enter, and I already have Homebrew and some dependencies installed. And so it's going to install OpenClaw and then it should drop you into a step- by-step onboarding.”
14 / recommendation
“While I don't recommend people edit the soul by hand, it's sometimes really useful to edit the tools document by hand because there's just some nuances in how you might want it to read your calendar or search the web, or I use Linear as tasking kind of substrate for my agents, how you might want it to use Linear. And so the tools markdown file is a really useful one.”
15 / recommendation
“So Brave is the one that ships with OpenClaw. I use Exa just because I already have an Exa account. You use Perplexity.”
16 / recommendation
“One, because they're really hardened against prompt injection and some security risks out of the box, and, two, you're just going to get a better experience. So I use a lot of Opus 4.6, Sonnet 4.6 and GPT-5.4.”
17 / prediction
“One of the things I wonder is if, you know, engineering leaders will decide on particular transitions or migrations to make just to power this stuff so that their teams can move a little bit faster because they're just seeing themselves be left so far behind compared to those who are maybe using some of these libraries and technologies natively.”
18 / evaluation
“You're showing an entirely new way for a leader to show up and actually contribute to the work product of the company, which I think is really inspirational.”
19 / prediction
“Definitely going to inspire tons of people to rethink how they show up at work. And I think a few folks are going to be looking over their shoulder thinking that you're about to lap them once or twice on some of this building.”
20 / recommendation
“We can't kind of scope creep and add more and more features. And what I think is interesting, I'm curious your point of view, is you can really start to go to the edges of some great user experience.”
21 / recommendation
“High Growth Handbook I love, and I like Scaling People. These are two books that the reason why I recommend them to people is because they have solid playbook answers to 80%, 90% of everyday leadership scaling people questions. And so they're just great reference books for what I think great leadership inside startups can look like, and they solve some of the things that you don't need to solve novel-ly. And then one on the fiction side that I've been recommending is Circe, which is a retelling of Circe's story from her perspective. It's a great read, and everybody I've recommended it to really loves it.”
22 / recommendation
“I just want to drive around my living room, Bluey included. And so no Rivian, no Mercedes-Benz, but I really love my Pacifica.”
23 / belief
“The reason I'm curious about it is I do think it's complicated and I do think you can be successful, but I don't think we're being successful at the rates I would love to see. And I think we're missing a lot of innovation and a lot of economic growth by not having incredible, technical, capable women start companies and lead organizations.”
24 / belief
“One, I think help each other. And then the other thing that I really, if I could ask your audience anything, is if you have a job where your job is typing into an internet box to create products out of nothing, really acknowledge the privilege and joy of that job and try to have some fun because a lot of people want to sit where you're sitting.”
25 / commitment
“We'll link to all these in the show notes. And we will refresh these two facts at the end of the podcast anyway, because I always ask this anyway.”
26 / belief
“I want to call out their amazing female CTOs out there, all those things. And I think if you can see it, you can start to unlock these very embedded concepts of who is and is not a technology leader who is and is not technical.”
27 / belief
“P product, they're all builders, they're the same types of folks, they're all builders, and bringing them under one house allows you to optimize for the whole, as opposed to optimize for the function. And if you can find a leader that is effective at that, I think you can get a lot of value added.”
28 / commitment
“There were two leaders in my organization, I won't say which ones and I won't say when, but two leaders in the organization, partners across product and engineering, and they could not get it together.”
29 / evaluation
“I really believe in leaning into strengths. And if you are in a position in which you're good at things and you've been giving a lot of responsibility, but you have tremendous growth edges and you're spending more time on the things you need to level up than the things you are exceptional at, I think that's not fair for the organization.”
30 / preference
“And what I mean is in most, at least in the stage I operate in in startups and growth stage companies and late stage startups, organizations are very fluid and I like to organize around talented motivated individuals. And so just because we're organized in a particular way now, just because these organizations are separate or these are different, together, doesn't mean that's necessarily the way they have to be, and so you should think about your career growth in the existing structure of the organization.”
31 / preference
“I tend to come in and love this, hate it, it's what I do, which is if I look at an organization that is operating at a lower pace than I would expect, I communicate to my leaders that my expectation is they bring in the clock speed one click faster, which means if you think something needs to be done this year, it needs to be done this half.”
32 / recommendation
“These are two books that the reason why I recommend them to people is because they have solid playbook answers to 80%, 90% of everyday leadership scaling people questions.”
33 / evaluation
“We're scrappy and resource-constrained, and our platform PMs were working on something very important, but this was critical and we needed to get it done.”
34 / evaluation
“I think the other thing is, again, I said this earlier, so many people get siloed into, "I'm a product manager, and so my job is this, but it's not that.”
35 / evaluation
“I think you have to be able to do a lot with a little, and I think you have to know where you're getting and, come hell or high water, figure out a way to get there.”
36 / evaluation
“I love to sell, but I think product teams, this opposition we have industry-wide with sales-led I'm not convinced is healthy in every organization.”
37 / preference
“I'm not going to relay it in precision, but one of the tactics that I've seen out there is basically go through your calendar for the last month or quarter, whatever it is, write everything down, and basically group them into, I hated doing this, I didn't love doing it but it was fine, I love doing this, and then I love doing this, and if I could spend all my time on this, I would be the happiest person in the whole world.”
38 / recommendation
“It's basically a vacation. I saw Poor Things, which if you like capital W weird capital A art, highly recommend Poor Things. The show that I recommend to people, I love Mythic Quest. Everybody references Silicon Valley, but Mythic Quest gets at some of, I was in gaming once, gets at some of my experiences in the technology organizations.”