Claire Vo: evaluation

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…n options. Okay. Like what, what is that? Okay. Let's go design and V zero watch of that and do a lot of research. You know, I think research is obviously going to get a lot better with, with AI, but, but still humans have to go talk to people, ask them questions, user research, design research, um, market research, uh, I think sales will always be important. I think marketing, like, I think marketing will be one of those things where like the average marketing, like AI will get so good at marketing that like the level of what's interesting to a human, like kind of like the, you know, that meme of the Saratoga Springs guy drinking the water and whatever, obviously like, Putting banana on his face. Like to me, that's like a sign of how good AI is. That like that level of content production is now necessary to go viral. Like it's insane. I can't imagine like how it took to make. It just it's so funny. Like it's so thoughtful and so many funny different little like Easter eggs. And you know, and I think that like that's kind of what will need to happen is just like you have to like up the game more and more and more. Like, you know, right now artists can post like a painting on Instagram and people will be like, oh, amazing painting. But in five years, it's going to be like, you need to post the freaking movie. That's just what people will expect. Like, hey, we just want to see your 30-minute sci-fi movie that you did. For free, sorry. That's what's happening to our dopamine system. Or we can spend a whole day talking about how do we get better at recommending products on Gumroad? Is there a totally different kind of recommendation experience that's much more AI-driven and much more natural language than just a marketplace, a feed of products? where you can remember things about your tastes, your preferences. You know, it can learn from you. We're launching a community feature. Pretty excited about this later this week, which is pretty big. But we, you know, there's just tons of, yeah. I mean, who knows? I mean, it's exciting. It's also scary, I think, which is why I think so many people shy away from this stuff. It's like there is this, like, part of why change is uncomfortable is that, like, change can kill you you know like there's like a fear of change like you know it's it's like job security right but at the end of the day i think it's sort of also job insecurity like we don't know if like what we do will continue to be valuable i can say for sure if you're if you're suggesting to us that ai is gonna raise the bar on what's possible to do you are Certainly setting the standard. I think you're showing an entirely new way for teams to build. You're showing an entirely new way for a leader to show up and actually contribute to the work product of the company, which I think is really inspirational. And then I think you're also showing, look, you just have to go learn these things and try things and, you know, you're going to get in a loop. But over time, you can actually become one of these entrepreneurs. leaders that's on the leading edge as opposed to the lagging edge. So I think it's great. And I think you're setting the standard for how EPD orgs are going to operate in the future, if not companies. So we're going to wrap up with a quick lightning round. Two questions. If you could encourage people to learn just one of all your toys here you just showed, just one that you think is the highest impact, which one would it be? Oh, V0, honestly. It's a bias, I think, because I spend so much time in product. I think I'm more of an engineer. I think cursor's agent mode is pretty crazy. I think if you're a CEO of a company, I think Devon is the most impressive. The fact that you can just be in Slack and just talk to it, and it will do this. is crazy. So I think a lot of it depends on like your role and you know, what you value and what you think is the most important. But v0, I think it's just like the lowest hanging fruit. I think everyone is kind of familiar with Figma. And I think a lot of people think that like, you know, okay, now people, no one questions that AI can code, even though a year ago, people were like, say, oh, we can't code or whatever. But now people are like, oh, we can't design, it doesn't have taste, you know, and so it's just like really, you know, like design a really nice onboarding wizard for a bank. And watch it do a better UI for a bank than any bank has. So I think that this is something anyone can do. A kid could have fun with this. So I would say, yeah, I'd probably nominate v0. And then the cool thing about v0 is it shows you what's possible. And so then if you want to execute on it, then you have to learn all the other tools. The other nice thing about v0 is that it comes with a URL. So you could build like a tic-tac-toe and send it to your friend and play tic-tac-toe, which is a kind of a nice, you know, replet or bolt.new or lovable. Like there's just so many things.…

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