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The economics and trends of the restaurant industry, with Tony Xu of DoorDash

21 Apr 2026 39 published claims 1 attributable person
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39 published records

01 / evaluation

Then once we were able to demonstrate to ourselves first that we had a product with higher retention than other people and higher frequency, and then we were able to raise capital, then we actually made the decision to pedal to the metal and actually go and acquire customers because we had an unfair advantage.

“Then once we were able to demonstrate to ourselves first that we had a product with higher retention than other people and higher frequency, and then we were able to raise capital, then we actually made the decision to pedal to the metal and actually go and acquire customers because we had an unfair advantage.”
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02 / belief

As I think about the funding rounds you mentioned being hard, one of the investors I know who has consistently had the most steadfast belief about DoorDash is Michael Abramson, who was at Sequoia back in the day.

“As I think about the funding rounds you mentioned being hard, one of the investors I know who has consistently had the most steadfast belief about DoorDash is Michael Abramson, who was at Sequoia back in the day.”
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03 / belief

The logistics, not just the algorithm, which I think is just one part of the system, but the signals that you'd want to collect are very, very different.

“The logistics, not just the algorithm, which I think is just one part of the system, but the signals that you'd want to collect are very, very different.”
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07 / belief

Restaurants that have very limited seating and very long seatings, the opportunity cost for a cancellation is very high, versus a restaurant that may have infinite production capacity, if you will. So I think the implementation of the idea is what matters, but I think the idea itself makes a ton of sense.

“Restaurants that have very limited seating and very long seatings, the opportunity cost for a cancellation is very high, versus a restaurant that may have infinite production capacity, if you will. So I think the implementation of the idea is what matters, but I think the idea itself makes a ton of sense.”
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11 / belief

I think when you have high volumes of activity, I think keeping the reliability as reliable as the electricity we have or the water inside of our buildings, that is extraordinarily difficult.

“I think when you have high volumes of activity, I think keeping the reliability as reliable as the electricity we have or the water inside of our buildings, that is extraordinarily difficult.”
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13 / belief

Getting all of that right very, very early and then building the systems to actually instrument that as well as to repeat that over and again, I think was very, very important in the development of the company.

“Getting all of that right very, very early and then building the systems to actually instrument that as well as to repeat that over and again, I think was very, very important in the development of the company.”
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15 / belief

In fact, if you looked at the census data in America now, and this is also true in China, but if you looked in America, in the last 60 years, I think there's only a couple of years where the number of restaurants in the current year didn't exceed that in the previous year.

“In fact, if you looked at the census data in America now, and this is also true in China, but if you looked in America, in the last 60 years, I think there's only a couple of years where the number of restaurants in the current year didn't exceed that in the previous year.”
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16 / belief

I think one of the coolest part and greatest privileges, frankly, that I have at DoorDash is because we get to interface with all the businesses of all these different wonderful cities and really get to meet the people who are building the GDP of those cities.

“I think one of the coolest part and greatest privileges, frankly, that I have at DoorDash is because we get to interface with all the businesses of all these different wonderful cities and really get to meet the people who are building the GDP of those cities.”
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17 / belief

We definitely agree with you that I think there's definitely going to be a place where in the future, as these AIs develop their—whatever we want to call them—app ecosystems, relationships, I think, with companies like ourselves that can, exactly what you just said, do the jobs to be done in their regular life.

“We definitely agree with you that I think there's definitely going to be a place where in the future, as these AIs develop their—whatever we want to call them—app ecosystems, relationships, I think, with companies like ourselves that can, exactly what you just said, do the jobs to be done in their regular life.”
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19 / belief

I can give you many of those examples where I think at the end of the day, whether the actions first speak, and then you can articulate the actual words and norms and cultural behaviors that the company is trying to speak.

“I can give you many of those examples where I think at the end of the day, whether the actions first speak, and then you can articulate the actual words and norms and cultural behaviors that the company is trying to speak.”
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23 / belief

I think because the cost of labor only goes in one direction and only goes up, restaurants are increasingly making this choice of on the continuum of service to manufacturing.

“I think because the cost of labor only goes in one direction and only goes up, restaurants are increasingly making this choice of on the continuum of service to manufacturing.”
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24 / belief

I took my kids a couple of summers ago. That was an experience, I think, in part because it was new to me and my kids, in part because I had kids with me playing with all the different things that they gave us.

“I took my kids a couple of summers ago. That was an experience, I think, in part because it was new to me and my kids, in part because I had kids with me playing with all the different things that they gave us.”
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27 / belief

Even before we go there, I think the first question might be what might be delivered? Because I think that's actually still not that well understood.

“Even before we go there, I think the first question might be what might be delivered? Because I think that's actually still not that well understood.”
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28 / belief

I think second, because of labor market dynamics, both the availability as well as the cost of labor in the Chinese market, that's allowed a lot of these businesses to make this activity almost as affordable as if you were to pick up the orders yourself.

“I think second, because of labor market dynamics, both the availability as well as the cost of labor in the Chinese market, that's allowed a lot of these businesses to make this activity almost as affordable as if you were to pick up the orders yourself.”
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29 / belief

When I met Michael, it actually reminded me a lot of our journey in Y Combinator, because I think in Y Combinator, I think we were just happy to be there, but a lot of people were really racing towards demo day where the objective function was to raise as much money at the highest possible valuation.

“When I met Michael, it actually reminded me a lot of our journey in Y Combinator, because I think in Y Combinator, I think we were just happy to be there, but a lot of people were really racing towards demo day where the objective function was to raise as much money at the highest possible valuation.”
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30 / belief

Many times I think about my freshman-year electrical engineering course on state machines, where DoorDash in some ways, is like a large state machine, where you have many systems in place, and they're observing what's happening.

“Many times I think about my freshman-year electrical engineering course on state machines, where DoorDash in some ways, is like a large state machine, where you have many systems in place, and they're observing what's happening.”
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32 / evaluation

I think people maybe thought that big chains were going to do it more, where you're right, the billboard effect for an actual retail presence is hard to compete with, where you get this very cheap customer acquisition from the fact that people know your name from the high street or maybe have been to you, and as a ghost kitchen, you need to make up for that awareness gap.

“I think people maybe thought that big chains were going to do it more, where you're right, the billboard effect for an actual retail presence is hard to compete with, where you get this very cheap customer acquisition from the fact that people know your name from the high street or maybe have been to you, and as a ghost kitchen, you need to make up for that awareness gap.”
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33 / evaluation

I think he said, "You have to do the math and work out that the economics of this business do work," and they do, therefore, a more compelling product experience will win.

“I think he said, "You have to do the math and work out that the economics of this business do work," and they do, therefore, a more compelling product experience will win.”
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34 / preference

I think about one of the beliefs that informed their products most strongly was that no-shows are terrible for restaurants, and a restaurant reservation should be like a flight reservation, where you don't just get to decide you're not going to go to the restaurant.

“I think about one of the beliefs that informed their products most strongly was that no-shows are terrible for restaurants, and a restaurant reservation should be like a flight reservation, where you don't just get to decide you're not going to go to the restaurant.”
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35 / preference

Two topics that are on the minds of all our customers today are, yes, stablecoins and then AI, specifically with respect to changing buying, agentic commerce. On stablecoins, I think maybe DoorDash is not where I would start.

“Two topics that are on the minds of all our customers today are, yes, stablecoins and then AI, specifically with respect to changing buying, agentic commerce. On stablecoins, I think maybe DoorDash is not where I would start.”
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36 / evaluation

Then there's the really old-school restaurant where the owner might greet you and might comp your dessert or something, but it's very sporadic and very dependent on the owner being there because as you say, when the new waiter or waitress is there, they don't know you.

“Then there's the really old-school restaurant where the owner might greet you and might comp your dessert or something, but it's very sporadic and very dependent on the owner being there because as you say, when the new waiter or waitress is there, they don't know you.”
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39 / evaluation

As I think through AI applications for DoorDash, one thing I'm struck by is that the LLMs are pretty good recommenders, just by tossing things into context.

“As I think through AI applications for DoorDash, one thing I'm struck by is that the LLMs are pretty good recommenders, just by tossing things into context.”
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