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Lessons on building product sense, navigating AI, optimizing the first mile, and making it through the messy middle | Scott Belsky (Adobe, Behance)

18 May 2023 13 published claims 2 attributable people

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01 / recommendation

Recommends Build.

“First is Build by Tony Fadell. Tony is just an amazing, charismatic, deeply pragmatic, product builder. He's been brave enough to do both Adams and Bits as he says. And his book is just chock-full of wisdom. I do appreciate some of these kind of laws of nature, laws of power type books. I love psychology books. I'm trying to think of some offhand that have really struck me. But understanding the natural human tendencies of people, I think the laws of power talks about tons of wars over centuries and what sorts of natural human tendencies or inequalities drove massive rebellions and revolutions. These sorts of insights, believe it or not, parlay into decisions we make in products and making people feel successful and productive. So I don't know. I love those books just because I think that they remind us of the limitations and opportunities or possibilities of humanity.”
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Scott Belsky
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

02 / belief

For us, I would say there's really three trends that are driving or three waves of transformation, I would say, that are driving the strategy right now for us.

“For us, I would say there's really three trends that are driving or three waves of transformation, I would say, that are driving the strategy right now for us.”
Speaker
Scott Belsky
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

04 / preference

Let's shift to talking about AI, which I'm really excited about because I know you've been spending a lot of time talking with people about AI, building AI products.

“Let's shift to talking about AI, which I'm really excited about because I know you've been spending a lot of time talking with people about AI, building AI products.”
Speaker
Lenny Rachitsky
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

05 / evaluation

It makes me think of something Shishir, the CEO of Coda, shared about how he's like, "I don't really buy this idea of product market fit because you have product market fit with your existing users that love it and know about it, and you always don't have product market fit with the people you want to be used the product.

“It makes me think of something Shishir, the CEO of Coda, shared about how he's like, "I don't really buy this idea of product market fit because you have product market fit with your existing users that love it and know about it, and you always don't have product market fit with the people you want to be used the product.”
Speaker
Lenny Rachitsky
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

06 / prediction

I agree with that, and I actually think that the role of AI going forward will be to have applications increasingly meet us where we are.

“I agree with that, and I actually think that the role of AI going forward will be to have applications increasingly meet us where we are.”
Speaker
Scott Belsky
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

08 / evaluation

I think that's right. And that's why we have to see it as a resource but not a constraint because, again, it's answering that question like what would it look like if as opposed to doing true distinct thinking per se.

“I think that's right. And that's why we have to see it as a resource but not a constraint because, again, it's answering that question like what would it look like if as opposed to doing true distinct thinking per se.”
Speaker
Scott Belsky
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

09 / evaluation

Well, in the chief product officer role, I oversaw design, product, and engineering. And I think part of the reason I was even interested in coming into the company and taking this role is that I felt like these boundaries between these functions are at best artificial, at worst really constraining.

“Well, in the chief product officer role, I oversaw design, product, and engineering. And I think part of the reason I was even interested in coming into the company and taking this role is that I felt like these boundaries between these functions are at best artificial, at worst really constraining.”
Speaker
Scott Belsky
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

10 / evaluation

If you look back at the last five years or so, it really has been about getting our core products to the cloud, making them collaborative, making some critical and interesting opportunistic acquisitions over the years, ensuring that we have connectivity between the products that we launched, new web apps that meet new types of creatives.

“If you look back at the last five years or so, it really has been about getting our core products to the cloud, making them collaborative, making some critical and interesting opportunistic acquisitions over the years, ensuring that we have connectivity between the products that we launched, new web apps that meet new types of creatives.”
Speaker
Scott Belsky
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

12 / preference

On team, I really value founders who listen, who really learn, who long to shake shit up a bit, and also value the mission that they're on more than the money that it yields because I do think that especially during a period of time where you don't have revenue, you're going to need to be motivated by something grander and bolder than revenue.

“On team, I really value founders who listen, who really learn, who long to shake shit up a bit, and also value the mission that they're on more than the money that it yields because I do think that especially during a period of time where you don't have revenue, you're going to need to be motivated by something grander and bolder than revenue.”
Speaker
Scott Belsky
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

13 / prediction

I'm very long the experience economy because I think that there will be some people liberated to focus more on the non-scalable things that really move the needle for experiences for customers.

“I'm very long the experience economy because I think that there will be some people liberated to focus more on the non-scalable things that really move the needle for experiences for customers.”
Speaker
Scott Belsky
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast
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