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Google Part III: The AI Company

6 Oct 2025 56 published claims 2 attributable people

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04 / belief

I think the only other bear case I would add is that they have the added challenge now of being the incumbent this time around, and people and the ecosystem isn’t necessarily rooting for them in the way that people were rooting for Google when they were a startup, and in the way that people were still rooting for Google in the mobile transition.

“I think the only other bear case I would add is that they have the added challenge now of being the incumbent this time around, and people and the ecosystem isn’t necessarily rooting for them in the way that people were rooting for Google when they were a startup, and in the way that people were still rooting for Google in the mobile transition.”
Speaker
David Rosenthal
Publisher
Acquired

12 / belief

I think if you look at all the big tech companies, Google, as unlikely as it seems given how things started, is probably doing the best job of trying to thread the needle with AI right now.

“I think if you look at all the big tech companies, Google, as unlikely as it seems given how things started, is probably doing the best job of trying to thread the needle with AI right now.”
Speaker
David Rosenthal
Publisher
Acquired

19 / commitment

We plan to extend the Transformer to problems involving input and output modalities other than text, and to investigate large inputs and outputs such as images, audio, and video.

“We plan to extend the Transformer to problems involving input and output modalities other than text, and to investigate large inputs and outputs such as images, audio, and video.”
Speaker
David Rosenthal
Publisher
Acquired

21 / observation

If you’re not a finance person, the way to read into that is yes, we still need a lot of cash for investing in the future of AI and data centers, but we still actually had way more cash than we needed and we decided to distribute that to shareholders.

“If you’re not a finance person, the way to read into that is yes, we still need a lot of cash for investing in the future of AI and data centers, but we still actually had way more cash than we needed and we decided to distribute that to shareholders.”
Speaker
Ben Gilbert
Publisher
Acquired

24 / commitment

Most of you, we can’t fit millions of people in a tidy auditorium in San Francisco the week of the Super Bowl when every other venue has tons of stuff too, so there’ll be an opportunity to watch that streaming online. And as we get closer to that date in February, we will make sure that you all know a way that you can tune in and watch the MC-ing, interviewing, and festivities at hand, Super Bowl week.

“Most of you, we can’t fit millions of people in a tidy auditorium in San Francisco the week of the Super Bowl when every other venue has tons of stuff too, so there’ll be an opportunity to watch that streaming online. And as we get closer to that date in February, we will make sure that you all know a way that you can tune in and watch the MC-ing, interviewing, and festivities at hand, Super Bowl week.”
Speaker
Ben Gilbert
Publisher
Acquired

31 / belief

I wonder if they did talk to AWS at all about it. Because I think—this is a crazy Easter egg; I hesitate to say it out loud—AWS was actually in the very first investment with Elon in OpenAI.

“I wonder if they did talk to AWS at all about it. Because I think—this is a crazy Easter egg; I hesitate to say it out loud—AWS was actually in the very first investment with Elon in OpenAI.”
Speaker
Ben Gilbert
Publisher
Acquired

34 / belief

Sebastian Thrun brings Geoff Hinton into the Google fold after this tech talk, (I think) first as a consultant over the next couple of years, then this is a basic later, Geoff Hinton technically becomes an intern at Google.

“Sebastian Thrun brings Geoff Hinton into the Google fold after this tech talk, (I think) first as a consultant over the next couple of years, then this is a basic later, Geoff Hinton technically becomes an intern at Google.”
Speaker
David Rosenthal
Publisher
Acquired

38 / belief

There’s an independent oversight board that is set up to make sure that the mission and goals of DeepMind are actually being followed. This is an asset that Google owns today that again, I think is worth half a trillion dollars if it’s independent.

“There’s an independent oversight board that is set up to make sure that the mission and goals of DeepMind are actually being followed. This is an asset that Google owns today that again, I think is worth half a trillion dollars if it’s independent.”
Speaker
Ben Gilbert
Publisher
Acquired

39 / commitment

If they’re saying the most capital-intense race in business history is happening right now, we intend to win it. And we have tons of extra cash lying around on top of what we think, plus a safety cushion for investing in that CapEx race.

“If they’re saying the most capital-intense race in business history is happening right now, we intend to win it. And we have tons of extra cash lying around on top of what we think, plus a safety cushion for investing in that CapEx race.”
Speaker
Ben Gilbert
Publisher
Acquired

40 / belief

As of today in 2025, this paper has been cited over 173,000 times in other academic papers, making it currently the 7th most cited paper of the 21st century. I think all of the other papers above it on the list have been out much longer.

“As of today in 2025, this paper has been cited over 173,000 times in other academic papers, making it currently the 7th most cited paper of the 21st century. I think all of the other papers above it on the list have been out much longer.”
Speaker
David Rosenthal
Publisher
Acquired

42 / belief

There was a billion dollars pledged. That came from famously Elon Musk, Sam Altman, Reid Hoffman, Jessica Livingston—who (I think) most people don’t realize was part of that initial tranche—and Peter Thiel.

“There was a billion dollars pledged. That came from famously Elon Musk, Sam Altman, Reid Hoffman, Jessica Livingston—who (I think) most people don’t realize was part of that initial tranche—and Peter Thiel.”
Speaker
Ben Gilbert
Publisher
Acquired

44 / belief

I think all that is true. Also in the intervening months to year after this meeting between Demis and Elon and Elon investing in DeepMind, Elon also starts to get really, really excited and convinced about the capabilities of AI in the near term, and specifically the capabilities of AI for Tesla.

“I think all that is true. Also in the intervening months to year after this meeting between Demis and Elon and Elon investing in DeepMind, Elon also starts to get really, really excited and convinced about the capabilities of AI in the near term, and specifically the capabilities of AI for Tesla.”
Speaker
David Rosenthal
Publisher
Acquired

47 / prediction

Jeff Dean does the math, and figures out if people use this for (I don’t know call it) three minutes a day and we roll it out to all billion Android phones, we’re going to need twice the number of data centers that we currently have across all of Google just to handle it.

“Jeff Dean does the math, and figures out if people use this for (I don’t know call it) three minutes a day and we roll it out to all billion Android phones, we’re going to need twice the number of data centers that we currently have across all of Google just to handle it.”
Speaker
Ben Gilbert
Publisher
Acquired

49 / evaluation

In theory, this is really bad because it means you would need to be constantly waiting around on any given machine for the other machines to sync their updated parameters before you could proceed.

“In theory, this is really bad because it means you would need to be constantly waiting around on any given machine for the other machines to sync their updated parameters before you could proceed.”
Speaker
Ben Gilbert
Publisher
Acquired

50 / evaluation

This is a small little passage in Stephen Levy’s great book that’s been a source for all of our Google episodes, In the Plex. This is a small little throwaway passage in here about this because this book came out before ChatGPT and AI and all that.

“This is a small little passage in Stephen Levy’s great book that’s been a source for all of our Google episodes, In the Plex. This is a small little throwaway passage in here about this because this book came out before ChatGPT and AI and all that.”
Speaker
David Rosenthal
Publisher
Acquired

51 / prediction

The thought process is if you can take a given piece of information and make it smaller, store it away, and then later reinstantiate it in its original form, the only way that you could possibly do that is if whatever force is acting on the data actually understands what it means.

“The thought process is if you can take a given piece of information and make it smaller, store it away, and then later reinstantiate it in its original form, the only way that you could possibly do that is if whatever force is acting on the data actually understands what it means.”
Speaker
David Rosenthal
Publisher
Acquired

53 / evaluation

One of the reasons that the judge cited of why they weren’t going to really take these actions is because of the race in AI. That because tens of billions of dollars of funding have gone into companies like OpenAI and Anthropic and Perplexity, Google essentially has this new war to fight and we’re going to leave it to the free market to do its thing where it creates viable competition on its own, and we’re not going to hamstring Google.

“One of the reasons that the judge cited of why they weren’t going to really take these actions is because of the race in AI. That because tens of billions of dollars of funding have gone into companies like OpenAI and Anthropic and Perplexity, Google essentially has this new war to fight and we’re going to leave it to the free market to do its thing where it creates viable competition on its own, and we’re not going to hamstring Google.”
Speaker
Ben Gilbert
Publisher
Acquired

54 / evaluation

Because this is Google and they have (I think) the most obfuscated financials of any of the companies we’ve studied, they anger me the most in being able to hide the ball in their financial statements.

“Because this is Google and they have (I think) the most obfuscated financials of any of the companies we’ve studied, they anger me the most in being able to hide the ball in their financial statements.”
Speaker
Ben Gilbert
Publisher
Acquired

55 / prediction

I think the AI era we’re entering gets us to think about it.” This is the worst possible thing that could happen to Google, that now Microsoft can actually challenge Google on their own turf, intent on the Internet with a legitimately different, better, differentiated product vector.

“I think the AI era we’re entering gets us to think about it.” This is the worst possible thing that could happen to Google, that now Microsoft can actually challenge Google on their own turf, intent on the Internet with a legitimately different, better, differentiated product vector.”
Speaker
Ben Gilbert
Publisher
Acquired
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