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An inside look at how Figma builds product | Yuhki Yamashita (CPO of Figma)

8 Jan 2023 11 published claims 2 attributable people

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01 / recommendation

Recommends Switch.

“First one that comes to mind is Switch, and it's really about how to affect organizational change, something that's Shishir recommended to me and we have the difficulty of affecting change in a large organization, basically, and how to overcome that. The second one I would say is my favorite book of all time is one called The Story of the Stone, and it's a Chinese novel, one of the most famous Chinese novels of all time. And it's thousands of pages. It all takes place in a garden, but it's one of the most beautiful piece of work I've read, so I like to recommend that, even though it's nothing to do with PM.”
Speaker
Yuhki Yamashita
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

04 / evaluation

That is very clever, and not everyone's building collaboration software, but that is a really clever idea. And I think there's probably a bit of trickle down from Dylan's obsession with the product in making it, just continuing to just be obsessed with making a great experience combined with that, people using the product and this trickle down of we really need to make this as awesome as possible.

“That is very clever, and not everyone's building collaboration software, but that is a really clever idea. And I think there's probably a bit of trickle down from Dylan's obsession with the product in making it, just continuing to just be obsessed with making a great experience combined with that, people using the product and this trickle down of we really need to make this as awesome as possible.”
Speaker
Lenny Rachitsky
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

05 / evaluation

I think a lot of it was about the level of intention around building community. And the more there are organic conversations happening about Figma, the better.

“I think a lot of it was about the level of intention around building community. And the more there are organic conversations happening about Figma, the better.”
Speaker
Yuhki Yamashita
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

06 / prediction

I believe Dylan made this social graph of the most influential designers on Twitter, and that was his go-to market strategy, get those designers on Figma, and then I think he open sourced his code to do that.

“I believe Dylan made this social graph of the most influential designers on Twitter, and that was his go-to market strategy, get those designers on Figma, and then I think he open sourced his code to do that.”
Speaker
Lenny Rachitsky
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

09 / recommendation

I guess the way to think about it is, put yourself in another user's shoes, and that user is someone who has no idea what's happening and still wants to understand, in a nuanced enough way, what you're grappling with.

“I guess the way to think about it is, put yourself in another user's shoes, and that user is someone who has no idea what's happening and still wants to understand, in a nuanced enough way, what you're grappling with.”
Speaker
Yuhki Yamashita
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

10 / evaluation

Sometimes people are like, well, OKRs exist for a reason and this is, basically, an OKR with just a different name. So my honest sense is we still haven't figured it out and we're still iterating on a bunch of different things, but I think I've developed some philosophies around it, which is, no matter what you call it, because it doesn't matter as much.

“Sometimes people are like, well, OKRs exist for a reason and this is, basically, an OKR with just a different name. So my honest sense is we still haven't figured it out and we're still iterating on a bunch of different things, but I think I've developed some philosophies around it, which is, no matter what you call it, because it doesn't matter as much.”
Speaker
Yuhki Yamashita
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

11 / preference

Because I think as a PM, you're in the center facilitating all these different trade offs, and when you go into design, you have to ignore some of those other aspects to really be insistent on pushing on the best experience possible.

“Because I think as a PM, you're in the center facilitating all these different trade offs, and when you go into design, you have to ignore some of those other aspects to really be insistent on pushing on the best experience possible.”
Speaker
Yuhki Yamashita
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast
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