Public evidence record
Published podcast speaker
Claim ledger
37 transcript-backed records
01 / evaluation
“It’s very difficult for the average guy to commit fraud because there’s so many safeguards set up.”
02 / belief
“” I said, “You know what? I think we can. I’m going to have my lawyer call you back.”
03 / uncertainty
“The FBI, and really only one of the FBI agents that interviewed me, I don’t know how he’s an agent.”
04 / belief
“I think prison snitch, I think, that’s probably the closer the term that most guys would use.”
05 / commitment
“” I said, “Have you called the authorities yet?” And they were like, “No, we haven’t, but once we put our file together, we will.”
06 / belief
“There were other guys that were involved in the scam. I think that scam ended up making, I think the FBI said it was 11.”
07 / observation
“God, I mean a big part of that, the reason is I did not want to move back in with my parents and I didn’t want my father to see me struggling, and I didn’t want him to … My success, he had no idea, my success had been the first time he’d ever really been proud of me.”
08 / belief
“Anytime you lie to the bank, you’ve committed fraud. And it’s funny, when I was doing it, I would say, “Ah, it’s in the gray area.”
09 / belief
“I mean, there’s no doubt in my mind I would be in prison right now if it wasn’t for him.”
10 / uncertainty
“I can’t have the police showing up. I don’t know who’s looking. We haven’t had plastic surgery at this point.”
11 / observation
“The problem is if you’ve ever been into a police station, you’re not getting out of it.”
12 / belief
“I’m just handing him seven, $8,000, $10,000 in cash. But I think most of them have legal ways to make ungodly amounts of money for influence.”
13 / evaluation
“I did, but you know what? It was right in front of the guard shack, and so there was guards in the guard shack.”
14 / uncertainty
“For some reason, people tend to like me and trust me. I don’t know why. It hasn’t worked out for so many people, but people naturally seem to trust me.”
15 / uncertainty
“I don’t know exactly what sparked that as much as there were so many other avenues that I could have gone that I just didn’t know.”
16 / commitment
“When my legions march on Washington, we are going to burn the constitution and the president will kneel at my feet.”
17 / belief
“My lawyer wanted me to cooperate, and by this point I realized you don’t have a choice.”
18 / commitment
“The ethical thing to do is to contact Household Bank, say, “We will buy those back.”
19 / uncertainty
“I always say I sweated bullets for four or five days, but I was concerned and I don’t know that I was concerned that I had broken the law.”
20 / uncertainty
“I mean, I think the amount of money that would have to be dumped into correcting that problem, I don’t know.”
21 / belief
“I didn’t believe in cooperation. But after seeing how many people cooperate and the way the system is set up, I think that my understanding of loyalty is vastly more realistic now.”
22 / belief
“You can’t have them cut to me. So I would say, “Hey, there’s a second mortgage on there,” and I’d provide a second mortgage or I’d provide different things.”
23 / belief
“Regardless, it’s still in the process. And, I think that we’re still in the process, and it could be six months or a year away because it’s a slow thing.”
24 / uncertainty
“I mean, listen, being in prison and then the people that are in prison that are going to be homeless or have been homeless, or the mental illness that I’ve dealt with in halfway houses and even doing this, I don’t know what you do with these people.”
25 / uncertainty
“I mean, I don’t know if I’m in a position that anybody would listen to me. And I don’t have any advice that I don’t think a father would give you, and it’s like work hard, be appreciative.”
26 / uncertainty
“” I’ll never forget, she goes, she says, “The hobo?” I don’t know who calls them hobos.”
27 / uncertainty
“What I don’t know, is that the whole time he’s actually working with a task force that’s been put together.”
28 / belief
“I can tell you exactly what I said because it’s burned in my mind. He comes in. So what Eric was doing at that time, he was actually working for us.”
29 / commitment
“I’m also creating other identities because I’ve got other people that are involved.”
30 / evaluation
“I remember at that point we went to the mall, ran up all the credit cards and just threw everything away and walked away, because it was shot.”
31 / preference
“He’s going on vacation here and vacation here. So when the FBI comes in and they indict me, and I take the three years’ probation, probably the worst thing in the world other than going to prison would’ve been just having to just sell everything and go move in and start over and sell used cars.”
32 / evaluation
“” And she says, “Why is he here?” And I tell her, “Well, he stole a bunch of money from the federal government because he’s trying to take over the world.”
33 / preference
“The whole time I wanted to start… Because the last, when I was just getting out of prison, everybody kept telling me, “Bro, you got to start a podcast.”
34 / evaluation
“A couple of weeks before the article is going to be published, he tells me Rolling Stone doesn’t want my name on the article because I’m in federal prison and it doesn’t look good, but don’t worry, he’s going to put my name in the article.”
35 / uncertainty
“He died. But I thought, “I don’t know what if,” some of these places had primary mortgage insurance, “what if the primary mortgage insurance, what if they try and claim because he was dead or I don’t know.”
36 / evaluation
“Because a lot of times people, they have good enough credit to borrow 95% or 90%, but they don’t have their down payment.”
37 / evaluation
“Prosecutor’s interviewed. It’s funny, at the time when I watched it, I was like, “That’s not true, and that’s not true, and that, and…” And honestly, it’s like 99% true.”