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Matthew Cox: uncertainty

17 Jan 2024 Lex Fridman Podcast #409 – Matthew Cox: FBI Most Wanted Con Man – $55 Million in Bank Fraud

“What I don’t know, is that the whole time he’s actually working with a task force that’s been put together.”

— Matthew Cox

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Speaker
Matthew Cox
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Verified speaker
Claim type
uncertainty
Recorded
17 Jan 2024
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

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…[inaudible 02:08:45]? Yeah, he got out for nothing. And here’s where I should have known that he was cooperating. It went from like $300,000 bond down to like $10,000. So it’s a thousand bucks. So right then, I didn’t know it at the time, but obviously that means we’re going to let him out of jail. He’s cooperating. So, they let him out of jail. I go and I get him a lawyer, a state… This was state, by the way. It wasn’t federal. So I get him a lawyer for like $15,000. He comes, of course, he tells me, “Look, they asked me a bunch of questions. I told him that…” He made up some story about he’s working with another guy, but he doesn’t know the guy’s name. He made up a name. He has this whole kind of thing where he tells them about me, but not me. None of the numbers led anywhere. So they all lead to cell phones that are only being used for those scams. So it’s a dead alley or a blind alley. I’m like, “Okay, okay.” And I’m paying him. He’s coming in, “Man, my truck’s no good. I need another truck.” I buy him another truck. “Hey man, the electric is going to get turned off and I don’t have… I need a thousand dollars.” “Of course, here’s a thousand dollars. I’m embarrassed you had to ask. Here’s a thousand.” A week later, he needs 2000 for this, a thousand for this, 2000 for this. He wants to start a tree-trimming company. He needs to buy a tree-trimmer. “How much are those? 5,000? Of course, $5,0000.” So I give him another 25,000, starts like a tree-trimming business, which he runs to this day. What I don’t know, is that the whole time he’s actually working with a task force that’s been put together. Federal, or……

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