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Matthew Cox: uncertainty

17 Jan 2024 Lex Fridman Podcast #409 – Matthew Cox: FBI Most Wanted Con Man – $55 Million in Bank Fraud

“I always say I sweated bullets for four or five days, but I was concerned and I don’t know that I was concerned that I had broken the law.”

— Matthew Cox

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Speaker
Matthew Cox
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Recorded
17 Jan 2024
Publisher
Lex Fridman Podcast

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…What did it feel like? So that was the first fraudulent action you committed. Yeah, I was worried. I always say I sweated bullets for four or five days, but I was concerned and I don’t know that I was concerned that I had broken the law. I was concerned because I was behind on my truck payment, I was behind on my mortgage. I had banked on being a mortgage broker, and I’d gone deep, deep behind on all my bills to do this. So in the last minute when this loan isn’t going to close and I have to commit fraud to make that happen… And my fear was they were going to figure it out and maybe I’d get fired. I didn’t think I was going to go to jail because my manager assured me, “You’re not going to jail. You’ll get fired at best.” So my concern was they were going to catch it and I get fired and I wouldn’t get paid. I needed that money so bad. So we’ll maybe paint the picture here. Where were you working? Who was the manager?…

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