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Deb Liu

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Quiet

“Well, first, I love the book, Quiet by Susan Cain. She talks about the power of introverts.”

Lenny's Podcast · 22 Aug 2024

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01 / belief

I think that that experience was a very humbling experience because to be told no and then to say that this will never happen was really hard.

“I think that that experience was a very humbling experience because to be told no and then to say that this will never happen was really hard.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

03 / belief

" I'm like, "Why not." And you end up dropping into different parts of your life and I think sometimes by saying, "Here's where I want to go and here's how I want to get there," you can have such a better career.

“" I'm like, "Why not." And you end up dropping into different parts of your life and I think sometimes by saying, "Here's where I want to go and here's how I want to get there," you can have such a better career.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

04 / belief

" Still working on him. But I actually think he has so much to give and I think he has learned so much about the craft, and I wish that more product managers feel comfortable that they have something to give to the world.

“" Still working on him. But I actually think he has so much to give and I think he has learned so much about the craft, and I wish that more product managers feel comfortable that they have something to give to the world.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

05 / belief

I think when you have passion around a product or passion around a company or around a business model or around something, it shows.

“I think when you have passion around a product or passion around a company or around a business model or around something, it shows.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

07 / belief

I came with a curiosity and I think that's what made me a great product manager was that I didn't have a set way of doing things.

“I came with a curiosity and I think that's what made me a great product manager was that I didn't have a set way of doing things.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

09 / recommendation

I think as you get more senior, having an individual coach helps because the situations are so much more unique.

“I think as you get more senior, having an individual coach helps because the situations are so much more unique.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

10 / recommendation

And then the last one I would say is, well, Susan Cain's Quiet. I adore the book because I do have introverted kids.

“And then the last one I would say is, well, Susan Cain's Quiet. I adore the book because I do have introverted kids.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

11 / evaluation

I tell people sometimes we overthink as product manager if we just had the perfect plan, the perfect battle plan, but instead imagine you're a team and you can ship, I don't know, let's say four things.

“I tell people sometimes we overthink as product manager if we just had the perfect plan, the perfect battle plan, but instead imagine you're a team and you can ship, I don't know, let's say four things.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

13 / evaluation

" And I love that for her. And I think she's still earlier in her career, she has so much time ahead of her, but it's really incredible to see her kind of on this path and to know that that's her dream, and that I can help her a little bit along the way.

“" And I love that for her. And I think she's still earlier in her career, she has so much time ahead of her, but it's really incredible to see her kind of on this path and to know that that's her dream, and that I can help her a little bit along the way.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

14 / evaluation

That's amazing. That is because you are there, you're going to change your trajectory of the product, or this thing has a hundred thousand users, you're going to get it to 200,000.

“That's amazing. That is because you are there, you're going to change your trajectory of the product, or this thing has a hundred thousand users, you're going to get it to 200,000.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

15 / evaluation

Because your peers also have influence over people's ratings and their promotions, and I was constantly just trying to figure out how to get them to see her brilliance.

“Because your peers also have influence over people's ratings and their promotions, and I was constantly just trying to figure out how to get them to see her brilliance.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

16 / recommendation

I used to do a new hire PM class and I say, "Look, a lot of you are going to go into the core product and your job is to grow X by 3 to 5% every six months.

“I used to do a new hire PM class and I say, "Look, a lot of you are going to go into the core product and your job is to grow X by 3 to 5% every six months.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

17 / evaluation

In fact, I actually went back to run the payments team while I was working on that product because the team we had gathered still want to continue working on it, but I needed a second job back on the payments team because they asked me, "We don't think this thing is going to work.

“In fact, I actually went back to run the payments team while I was working on that product because the team we had gathered still want to continue working on it, but I needed a second job back on the payments team because they asked me, "We don't think this thing is going to work.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

18 / evaluation

Well, I think the biggest thing I learned from that entire experience is that people are people, but they respond to the process and respond to culture in different ways.

“Well, I think the biggest thing I learned from that entire experience is that people are people, but they respond to the process and respond to culture in different ways.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

19 / evaluation

And so thus, you end up in a case where you end up fighting over prioritization, and in the end, when you're starving, what you're focused on is what you need to get done on your side. And so really I think instead you either fund something like that, fully get it done quickly, or when you elongate it like this where things are just, you're just creating hostility between the teams.

“And so thus, you end up in a case where you end up fighting over prioritization, and in the end, when you're starving, what you're focused on is what you need to get done on your side. And so really I think instead you either fund something like that, fully get it done quickly, or when you elongate it like this where things are just, you're just creating hostility between the teams.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

20 / belief

I think PayPal is such a small scrappy company trying to do so many amazing things with a few hundred employees and it was just the adventure of a lifetime, but it was really different being bought by a company that was run in such a corporate way.

“I think PayPal is such a small scrappy company trying to do so many amazing things with a few hundred employees and it was just the adventure of a lifetime, but it was really different being bought by a company that was run in such a corporate way.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

22 / belief

I noticed this as I got further and further in my career, I didn't realize how important this was. And then I realized that anyone who can go into a room and speak about almost anything intelligently without any preparation has a huge advantage in our industry.

“I noticed this as I got further and further in my career, I didn't realize how important this was. And then I realized that anyone who can go into a room and speak about almost anything intelligently without any preparation has a huge advantage in our industry.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

23 / belief

I think that's what's really great about a career in tech is if you're in a high growth company, they give you so much responsibility that you have no business deserving the right to do, and yet you have this opportunity to shape a product that's touched by millions and millions of people, and you can grow your career so quickly because you can have such impact in such a short time.

“I think that's what's really great about a career in tech is if you're in a high growth company, they give you so much responsibility that you have no business deserving the right to do, and yet you have this opportunity to shape a product that's touched by millions and millions of people, and you can grow your career so quickly because you can have such impact in such a short time.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

25 / belief

Instead, we worked on a new plan, but I think a lot of PMs are like her, not because, and she's an incredible PM, but she put so much more care into her product than she really thought about her career.

“Instead, we worked on a new plan, but I think a lot of PMs are like her, not because, and she's an incredible PM, but she put so much more care into her product than she really thought about her career.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

26 / evaluation

We started it because we wanted women to be able to connect and build community, but the ultimate goal is to have more women in product management, because what happens was the reason that companies like Facebook and a lot of other tech companies didn't have a lot of women and that we lost so many women was that a decision was made 2004 to require a computer science degree to become a product manager.

“We started it because we wanted women to be able to connect and build community, but the ultimate goal is to have more women in product management, because what happens was the reason that companies like Facebook and a lot of other tech companies didn't have a lot of women and that we lost so many women was that a decision was made 2004 to require a computer science degree to become a product manager.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

27 / preference

I wrote it because I always had an open door policy, and for many years at Facebook I had an open door policy where anybody could reach out to me, and I would just spend 15 minutes coaching them, venturing them, whatever they wanted.

“I wrote it because I always had an open door policy, and for many years at Facebook I had an open door policy where anybody could reach out to me, and I would just spend 15 minutes coaching them, venturing them, whatever they wanted.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

28 / recommendation

If you can find a coaching circle or mentoring circle of other PMs, they will actually help you see your blind spots, because I think seeing your blind spots helps you to work on them.

“If you can find a coaching circle or mentoring circle of other PMs, they will actually help you see your blind spots, because I think seeing your blind spots helps you to work on them.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

29 / recommendation

The second thing, I do think that for your career, I should work on a template for this, I actually have a pre-mortem I wrote when I first joined Ancestry for example, of what I hope to accomplish in 10 years here.

“The second thing, I do think that for your career, I should work on a template for this, I actually have a pre-mortem I wrote when I first joined Ancestry for example, of what I hope to accomplish in 10 years here.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

30 / evaluation

You have been 50,000 subscribers, you showed up to meet up at events, I think that's not our natural inclination, but I also think that you and I have one thing in common and I hope that our listeners will know this, which is we also are people, who when the occasion comes, we will rise to the occasion because that's what needs to get done.

“You have been 50,000 subscribers, you showed up to meet up at events, I think that's not our natural inclination, but I also think that you and I have one thing in common and I hope that our listeners will know this, which is we also are people, who when the occasion comes, we will rise to the occasion because that's what needs to get done.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

31 / evaluation

Let's talk." And that kind of support is something that's really invaluable, and I think we don't use that enough in our industry honestly.

“Let's talk." And that kind of support is something that's really invaluable, and I think we don't use that enough in our industry honestly.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

32 / evaluation

I would say for both actually, one of the most important things that I think we lack is communication skills because I don't know if you, the communication is the job.

“I would say for both actually, one of the most important things that I think we lack is communication skills because I don't know if you, the communication is the job.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

33 / evaluation

Now, I don't know how to solve that problem, because the actual work matters way more in the day-to-day, but you're being judged on the 5%, which is your presentation or your ability to answer questions on the spot.

“Now, I don't know how to solve that problem, because the actual work matters way more in the day-to-day, but you're being judged on the 5%, which is your presentation or your ability to answer questions on the spot.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

34 / evaluation

I definitely think the growth mindset is absolutely the most important thing because someone who's constantly growing is going to listen to feedback.

“I definitely think the growth mindset is absolutely the most important thing because someone who's constantly growing is going to listen to feedback.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

35 / evaluation

" And I realized that so much is not just, if a great strategy falls in the forest and no one knew about it, it doesn't even matter, right? And so I learned that I was failing at the part that was the most important part of consulting, wasn't just getting to the answer, but it was making sure you could convince people of the answer.

“" And I realized that so much is not just, if a great strategy falls in the forest and no one knew about it, it doesn't even matter, right? And so I learned that I was failing at the part that was the most important part of consulting, wasn't just getting to the answer, but it was making sure you could convince people of the answer.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast
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