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Succeeding as an introvert, building zero-to-one, and why you should PM your career like you PM your product | Deb Liu (CEO of Ancestry, ex-Facebook, PayPal, eBay)

22 Aug 2024 22 published claims 2 attributable people

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01 / belief

I think that that experience was a very humbling experience because to be told no and then to say that this will never happen was really hard.

“I think that that experience was a very humbling experience because to be told no and then to say that this will never happen was really hard.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

03 / belief

" I'm like, "Why not." And you end up dropping into different parts of your life and I think sometimes by saying, "Here's where I want to go and here's how I want to get there," you can have such a better career.

“" I'm like, "Why not." And you end up dropping into different parts of your life and I think sometimes by saying, "Here's where I want to go and here's how I want to get there," you can have such a better career.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

04 / belief

" Still working on him. But I actually think he has so much to give and I think he has learned so much about the craft, and I wish that more product managers feel comfortable that they have something to give to the world.

“" Still working on him. But I actually think he has so much to give and I think he has learned so much about the craft, and I wish that more product managers feel comfortable that they have something to give to the world.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

06 / belief

We have a segment on this podcast called Failure Corner where people share a failure they went through kind of along the same lines and something we learned from that experience.

“We have a segment on this podcast called Failure Corner where people share a failure they went through kind of along the same lines and something we learned from that experience.”
Speaker
Lenny Rachitsky
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

07 / belief

I think when you have passion around a product or passion around a company or around a business model or around something, it shows.

“I think when you have passion around a product or passion around a company or around a business model or around something, it shows.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

10 / belief

I came with a curiosity and I think that's what made me a great product manager was that I didn't have a set way of doing things.

“I came with a curiosity and I think that's what made me a great product manager was that I didn't have a set way of doing things.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

11 / belief

You have a really nice perspective on how to think about growth. I think a lot of people think of growth as like, "Here's a magic bullet.

“You have a really nice perspective on how to think about growth. I think a lot of people think of growth as like, "Here's a magic bullet.”
Speaker
Lenny Rachitsky
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

13 / recommendation

I think as you get more senior, having an individual coach helps because the situations are so much more unique.

“I think as you get more senior, having an individual coach helps because the situations are so much more unique.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

14 / recommendation

And then the last one I would say is, well, Susan Cain's Quiet. I adore the book because I do have introverted kids.

“And then the last one I would say is, well, Susan Cain's Quiet. I adore the book because I do have introverted kids.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

15 / preference

There's like an innate just doing this because I want to get attention when often... And the way I started this is just like things I've learned that I think are useful, I'm just going to put them out there.

“There's like an innate just doing this because I want to get attention when often... And the way I started this is just like things I've learned that I think are useful, I'm just going to put them out there.”
Speaker
Lenny Rachitsky
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

16 / evaluation

I tell people sometimes we overthink as product manager if we just had the perfect plan, the perfect battle plan, but instead imagine you're a team and you can ship, I don't know, let's say four things.

“I tell people sometimes we overthink as product manager if we just had the perfect plan, the perfect battle plan, but instead imagine you're a team and you can ship, I don't know, let's say four things.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

18 / evaluation

" And I love that for her. And I think she's still earlier in her career, she has so much time ahead of her, but it's really incredible to see her kind of on this path and to know that that's her dream, and that I can help her a little bit along the way.

“" And I love that for her. And I think she's still earlier in her career, she has so much time ahead of her, but it's really incredible to see her kind of on this path and to know that that's her dream, and that I can help her a little bit along the way.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

19 / evaluation

That's amazing. That is because you are there, you're going to change your trajectory of the product, or this thing has a hundred thousand users, you're going to get it to 200,000.

“That's amazing. That is because you are there, you're going to change your trajectory of the product, or this thing has a hundred thousand users, you're going to get it to 200,000.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

20 / evaluation

Because your peers also have influence over people's ratings and their promotions, and I was constantly just trying to figure out how to get them to see her brilliance.

“Because your peers also have influence over people's ratings and their promotions, and I was constantly just trying to figure out how to get them to see her brilliance.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

21 / recommendation

I used to do a new hire PM class and I say, "Look, a lot of you are going to go into the core product and your job is to grow X by 3 to 5% every six months.

“I used to do a new hire PM class and I say, "Look, a lot of you are going to go into the core product and your job is to grow X by 3 to 5% every six months.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

22 / evaluation

In fact, I actually went back to run the payments team while I was working on that product because the team we had gathered still want to continue working on it, but I needed a second job back on the payments team because they asked me, "We don't think this thing is going to work.

“In fact, I actually went back to run the payments team while I was working on that product because the team we had gathered still want to continue working on it, but I needed a second job back on the payments team because they asked me, "We don't think this thing is going to work.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast
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