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How to own your career growth and become a powerful product leader | Deb Liu, Ancestry (ex-Facebook, PayPal)

4 Aug 2022 22 published claims 2 attributable people

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01 / evaluation

Well, I think the biggest thing I learned from that entire experience is that people are people, but they respond to the process and respond to culture in different ways.

“Well, I think the biggest thing I learned from that entire experience is that people are people, but they respond to the process and respond to culture in different ways.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

02 / evaluation

And so thus, you end up in a case where you end up fighting over prioritization, and in the end, when you're starving, what you're focused on is what you need to get done on your side. And so really I think instead you either fund something like that, fully get it done quickly, or when you elongate it like this where things are just, you're just creating hostility between the teams.

“And so thus, you end up in a case where you end up fighting over prioritization, and in the end, when you're starving, what you're focused on is what you need to get done on your side. And so really I think instead you either fund something like that, fully get it done quickly, or when you elongate it like this where things are just, you're just creating hostility between the teams.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

03 / belief

I definitely want to get to Facebook Marketplace questions, but one last question while we're on this topic is Women in Product, which is an organization that I believe you co-founded and you're on the board and you run.

“I definitely want to get to Facebook Marketplace questions, but one last question while we're on this topic is Women in Product, which is an organization that I believe you co-founded and you're on the board and you run.”
Speaker
Lenny Rachitsky
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

04 / belief

I think PayPal is such a small scrappy company trying to do so many amazing things with a few hundred employees and it was just the adventure of a lifetime, but it was really different being bought by a company that was run in such a corporate way.

“I think PayPal is such a small scrappy company trying to do so many amazing things with a few hundred employees and it was just the adventure of a lifetime, but it was really different being bought by a company that was run in such a corporate way.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

05 / uncertainty

Something that I don't know if people know is that you joined PayPal when you were very young and it was maybe your first PM role and you ended up taking on some significant responsibility super quickly.

“Something that I don't know if people know is that you joined PayPal when you were very young and it was maybe your first PM role and you ended up taking on some significant responsibility super quickly.”
Speaker
Lenny Rachitsky
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

08 / belief

I noticed this as I got further and further in my career, I didn't realize how important this was. And then I realized that anyone who can go into a room and speak about almost anything intelligently without any preparation has a huge advantage in our industry.

“I noticed this as I got further and further in my career, I didn't realize how important this was. And then I realized that anyone who can go into a room and speak about almost anything intelligently without any preparation has a huge advantage in our industry.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

09 / belief

I think that's what's really great about a career in tech is if you're in a high growth company, they give you so much responsibility that you have no business deserving the right to do, and yet you have this opportunity to shape a product that's touched by millions and millions of people, and you can grow your career so quickly because you can have such impact in such a short time.

“I think that's what's really great about a career in tech is if you're in a high growth company, they give you so much responsibility that you have no business deserving the right to do, and yet you have this opportunity to shape a product that's touched by millions and millions of people, and you can grow your career so quickly because you can have such impact in such a short time.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

11 / belief

Instead, we worked on a new plan, but I think a lot of PMs are like her, not because, and she's an incredible PM, but she put so much more care into her product than she really thought about her career.

“Instead, we worked on a new plan, but I think a lot of PMs are like her, not because, and she's an incredible PM, but she put so much more care into her product than she really thought about her career.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

13 / evaluation

We started it because we wanted women to be able to connect and build community, but the ultimate goal is to have more women in product management, because what happens was the reason that companies like Facebook and a lot of other tech companies didn't have a lot of women and that we lost so many women was that a decision was made 2004 to require a computer science degree to become a product manager.

“We started it because we wanted women to be able to connect and build community, but the ultimate goal is to have more women in product management, because what happens was the reason that companies like Facebook and a lot of other tech companies didn't have a lot of women and that we lost so many women was that a decision was made 2004 to require a computer science degree to become a product manager.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

14 / preference

I wrote it because I always had an open door policy, and for many years at Facebook I had an open door policy where anybody could reach out to me, and I would just spend 15 minutes coaching them, venturing them, whatever they wanted.

“I wrote it because I always had an open door policy, and for many years at Facebook I had an open door policy where anybody could reach out to me, and I would just spend 15 minutes coaching them, venturing them, whatever they wanted.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

15 / recommendation

If you can find a coaching circle or mentoring circle of other PMs, they will actually help you see your blind spots, because I think seeing your blind spots helps you to work on them.

“If you can find a coaching circle or mentoring circle of other PMs, they will actually help you see your blind spots, because I think seeing your blind spots helps you to work on them.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

16 / recommendation

The second thing, I do think that for your career, I should work on a template for this, I actually have a pre-mortem I wrote when I first joined Ancestry for example, of what I hope to accomplish in 10 years here.

“The second thing, I do think that for your career, I should work on a template for this, I actually have a pre-mortem I wrote when I first joined Ancestry for example, of what I hope to accomplish in 10 years here.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

17 / evaluation

You have been 50,000 subscribers, you showed up to meet up at events, I think that's not our natural inclination, but I also think that you and I have one thing in common and I hope that our listeners will know this, which is we also are people, who when the occasion comes, we will rise to the occasion because that's what needs to get done.

“You have been 50,000 subscribers, you showed up to meet up at events, I think that's not our natural inclination, but I also think that you and I have one thing in common and I hope that our listeners will know this, which is we also are people, who when the occasion comes, we will rise to the occasion because that's what needs to get done.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

18 / evaluation

Let's talk." And that kind of support is something that's really invaluable, and I think we don't use that enough in our industry honestly.

“Let's talk." And that kind of support is something that's really invaluable, and I think we don't use that enough in our industry honestly.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

19 / evaluation

I would say for both actually, one of the most important things that I think we lack is communication skills because I don't know if you, the communication is the job.

“I would say for both actually, one of the most important things that I think we lack is communication skills because I don't know if you, the communication is the job.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

20 / evaluation

Now, I don't know how to solve that problem, because the actual work matters way more in the day-to-day, but you're being judged on the 5%, which is your presentation or your ability to answer questions on the spot.

“Now, I don't know how to solve that problem, because the actual work matters way more in the day-to-day, but you're being judged on the 5%, which is your presentation or your ability to answer questions on the spot.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

21 / evaluation

I definitely think the growth mindset is absolutely the most important thing because someone who's constantly growing is going to listen to feedback.

“I definitely think the growth mindset is absolutely the most important thing because someone who's constantly growing is going to listen to feedback.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast

22 / evaluation

" And I realized that so much is not just, if a great strategy falls in the forest and no one knew about it, it doesn't even matter, right? And so I learned that I was failing at the part that was the most important part of consulting, wasn't just getting to the answer, but it was making sure you could convince people of the answer.

“" And I realized that so much is not just, if a great strategy falls in the forest and no one knew about it, it doesn't even matter, right? And so I learned that I was failing at the part that was the most important part of consulting, wasn't just getting to the answer, but it was making sure you could convince people of the answer.”
Speaker
Deb Liu
Publisher
Lenny's Podcast
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