Dwarkesh Podcast / episode intelligence
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24 published records
01 / prediction
“But there’s going to be some allocative inefficiency. The government doesn’t know exactly who got laid off because of AI.”
02 / evaluation
“For example, Atkinson has a paper showing that if you keep the accounting constant over the years, labor share hasn’t even fallen ever.”
03 / prediction
“A lot of things in the machine-only economy are a closed loop because the machines don’t care about getting the human barista to make them a coffee.”
04 / evaluation
“The famous fact here is that an H100 costs more to rent now than it did three years ago, even though we have much superior technology and much more compute in the world. Because as models get smarter, the opportunity cost of compute gets higher.”
05 / belief
“If a person has an intrinsic preference for accumulation, that’s just what they want, then I think your story is totally right.”
06 / belief
“When I think about why it might be good to have a lot of wealth in the future as a good classical utilitarian, to me, the value—or at least one way you could have an almost unsatiating utility function in having wealth in the future—is to create new happy beings.”
07 / evaluation
“If that increasing variety is fast enough, and there is no such increasing variety in the human sector, then you can get all of the relational goods you want, but it doesn’t matter for labor share.”
08 / belief
“Fair. But if we’re in the world where reproduction is still happening the way that it’s happening, I think… And this is a big question, I’m not making a prediction.”
09 / belief
“I think the open model thing is going to be a big point here. If we’re indeed in a world where the open models are six months behind the frontier—or nine months—then we’ll hit AGI, we’ll hit whatever, and in six months, everybody has access to this resource.”
10 / belief
“I think AI will be much more popular and, more importantly, will be much more likely to lead to broad increases in prosperity if it is as hard to capture the gains of AI as it is to capture the gains of electrification.”
11 / uncertainty
“We don’t have data on consumer demand elasticities. We don’t know what they are.”
12 / belief
“Phil, I liked your analogy to some Mongolian economist sitting around in 1400 thinking about what will be scarce and the limits of that kind of analysis. I think you should talk about that.”
13 / prediction
“What we expect to come from a human and how we organize our politics has changed so many times throughout history, from little hunter-gatherer bands to empires to whatnot.”
14 / belief
“I think there is a world where it is concentrated, in which case it’s going to be really hard to index AGI.”
15 / prediction
“There are scenarios where you get AI technology being allocated and dissipating to Nigeria and developing countries, leveling the playing field, essentially giving them a level up as far as capabilities. But there’s another world where, because they don’t have enough resources, they’re not training the models, they don’t have the hardware, and they just completely get left behind.”
16 / prediction
“The more you think our economy is going to be run on AGI the way our economy currently runs on electricity—that is, there’s a broad fundamental transformation of the entire economy—the more it looks like electricity… Every company in the S&P of the future, if it’s going to make it to the S&P 500, it is because it has leveraged AI.”
17 / preference
“The humans who are wealthiest—and growing wealthier because their wealth is compounding—just have this almost Nick Landian preference for accelerating capital.”
18 / preference
“The only way this relational story works—and this is what we need more data on—is if a human is not a horse in the sense that they are providing value from the output, where if you replace the human, the value of the output decreases.”
19 / evaluation
“Referring to Molly’s excellent essay, I think in some ways one of the worst scenarios is a drip scenario because of the political economy piece.”
20 / evaluation
“I think the particular greediness of this optimizer doesn’t matter, what they’re greedy for.”
21 / prediction
“I do think there’s this qualitative shift that I think we agree is coming, which is that there will be at least some goods whose network-adjusted capital share goes to one.”
22 / evaluation
“Symmetrically, it could be a reason why we don’t use a human for one-tenth of the job anymore, because a human just can’t perform it to the level of quality that the AI can perform the other parts of the job, or the level of speed.”
23 / prediction
“Because humans are naturally scarce, if we have automation where a lot of other things stop being scarce, we will still have scarcity in the things that humans are involved in and in the loop for.”
24 / evaluation
“There was a time when there were no humans on Earth, but evolution selected for agents that have specific drives and preferences because those tend to survive the most, and those preferences now determine what a hundred-trillion-dollar world economy produces.”