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Emergency Pod: OpenAI's new Functions API, 75% Price Drop, 4x Context Length (w/ Alex Volkov, Simon Willison, Riley Goodside, Joshua Lochner, Stefania Druga, Eric Elliott, Mayo Oshin et al)

14 Jun 2023 22 published claims 5 attributable people

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belief 8evaluation 6uncertainty 2prediction 2recommendation 2commitment 1preference 1

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22 published records

01 / belief

We've talked about yamo being maybe left tokens count overall over json and we all, we all tried this and I think we've all been begging up to kind of gi give us the stool.

“We've talked about yamo being maybe left tokens count overall over json and we all, we all tried this and I think we've all been begging up to kind of gi give us the stool.”
Speaker
Alex Volkov
Publisher
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02 / uncertainty

Just real quick, Roy is the Devrel for Pine Kong and the example that we saw I don't know if how many of you folks had the chance to dive into the, to the cookbook, the OpenAI released.

“Just real quick, Roy is the Devrel for Pine Kong and the example that we saw I don't know if how many of you folks had the chance to dive into the, to the cookbook, the OpenAI released.”
Speaker
Alex Volkov
Publisher
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03 / evaluation

Cuz because I just say like, just use this and stop bothering me with your prompts. It still doesn't solve what I was talking about today, which is literally I think three hours ago I posted this so it's kind of fresh.

“Cuz because I just say like, just use this and stop bothering me with your prompts. It still doesn't solve what I was talking about today, which is literally I think three hours ago I posted this so it's kind of fresh.”
Speaker
Shawn Wang
Publisher
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04 / evaluation

Like cuz the, the problem if, if the function is delete my email, it doesn't matter if you get the schema right or not, it's still, it can cause a harmful action.

“Like cuz the, the problem if, if the function is delete my email, it doesn't matter if you get the schema right or not, it's still, it can cause a harmful action.”
Speaker
Simon Willison
Publisher
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05 / belief

I think the thing about these spaces is we, we don't have Logan here or anybody open, and when we do.

“I think the thing about these spaces is we, we don't have Logan here or anybody open, and when we do.”
Speaker
Alex Volkov
Publisher
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06 / belief

I'm going to, I have things I'm going to build on top of this, but I'm gonna be very careful about the, I think the reversibility.

“I'm going to, I have things I'm going to build on top of this, but I'm gonna be very careful about the, I think the reversibility.”
Speaker
Simon Willison
Publisher
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08 / belief

I want widgets in chat. GPT I think chats a terrible interface. I would like to be able to build it like a ChatGPT plugin that could say, now show them a map, now ask them to pick something from this list of options.

“I want widgets in chat. GPT I think chats a terrible interface. I would like to be able to build it like a ChatGPT plugin that could say, now show them a map, now ask them to pick something from this list of options.”
Speaker
Simon Willison
Publisher
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10 / belief

I think like the thing that you know about this, this whole release is that like, it it's is coolest functions are like, there, there, I think the real thing that might be more important in the end is, is just this march towards lower prices and bigger context windows.

“I think like the thing that you know about this, this whole release is that like, it it's is coolest functions are like, there, there, I think the real thing that might be more important in the end is, is just this march towards lower prices and bigger context windows.”
Speaker
Riley Goodside
Publisher
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11 / belief

Oh, I was just curious timing if you'd played with I think grant Sladen working on like context free grammar stuff that, like I linked a while back, I didn't know how that compared to JSON former.

“Oh, I was just curious timing if you'd played with I think grant Sladen working on like context free grammar stuff that, like I linked a while back, I didn't know how that compared to JSON former.”
Speaker
Riley Goodside
Publisher
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12 / prediction

I, I expect amazing things once that drops for the ability of, you know, a GPT4 to understand the real world.

“I, I expect amazing things once that drops for the ability of, you know, a GPT4 to understand the real world.”
Speaker
Alex Volkov
Publisher
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13 / belief

Awesome. And we, we also are gonna drop our first, I think the first ever interview with George Hotz on Tiny Corp.

“Awesome. And we, we also are gonna drop our first, I think the first ever interview with George Hotz on Tiny Corp.”
Speaker
Shawn Wang
Publisher
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14 / commitment

You need to, sometimes you need to say, no, I cannot build the feature you're asking me to build because it can't be built securely.

“You need to, sometimes you need to say, no, I cannot build the feature you're asking me to build because it can't be built securely.”
Speaker
Simon Willison
Publisher
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15 / recommendation

I think that like, You know, we could just like think of these models as reasoning a, like engines that we could leverage and then do whatever we want with the output.

“I think that like, You know, we could just like think of these models as reasoning a, like engines that we could leverage and then do whatever we want with the output.”
Speaker
Riley Goodside
Publisher
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16 / evaluation

Especially ambiguity where 50% of the time it does one thing and 50% of the time it does another, which these models do all of the time because they're not You know, you can't guarantee they'll have the same result, same input.

“Especially ambiguity where 50% of the time it does one thing and 50% of the time it does another, which these models do all of the time because they're not You know, you can't guarantee they'll have the same result, same input.”
Speaker
Riley Goodside
Publisher
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17 / evaluation

Like that's, you know, I think that that's the key thing is that it's seen a lot of documentation, it has a lot of experience in the training data of like how documentation relates to code because like, it's trained on like code bases.

“Like that's, you know, I think that that's the key thing is that it's seen a lot of documentation, it has a lot of experience in the training data of like how documentation relates to code because like, it's trained on like code bases.”
Speaker
Riley Goodside
Publisher
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18 / prediction

Oh, I just quickly wanna say that if I was to put my money on, on it, like I would say the small models, long term is the way to go for various reasons.

“Oh, I just quickly wanna say that if I was to put my money on, on it, like I would say the small models, long term is the way to go for various reasons.”
Speaker
Stefania Druga
Publisher
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19 / preference

I think that's definitely a huge plus for, for folks who are not, you know, necessarily token price conscious at this point.

“I think that's definitely a huge plus for, for folks who are not, you know, necessarily token price conscious at this point.”
Speaker
Alex Volkov
Publisher
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20 / recommendation

The core inside of Voyager is that you should use LMS as a drafting tool to write code and then to, and then once you validate it that the code works.

“The core inside of Voyager is that you should use LMS as a drafting tool to write code and then to, and then once you validate it that the code works.”
Speaker
Shawn Wang
Publisher
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21 / evaluation

Super excited to see what people build with the 3 5 16 K model, because honestly, like we think GP PT four is just quite expensive at this point.

“Super excited to see what people build with the 3 5 16 K model, because honestly, like we think GP PT four is just quite expensive at this point.”
Speaker
Alex Volkov
Publisher
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22 / evaluation

Like, one is while I shared like the excitement, I think that we still have to be careful because, you know, these things are still going to hallucinate and there's not going to, there's, there's still not a.

“Like, one is while I shared like the excitement, I think that we still have to be careful because, you know, these things are still going to hallucinate and there's not going to, there's, there's still not a.”
Speaker
Riley Goodside
Publisher
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