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Alex Volkov: evaluation

14 Jun 2023 Latent Space Emergency Pod: OpenAI's new Functions API, 75% Price Drop, 4x Context Length (w/ Alex Volkov, Simon Willison, Riley Goodside, Joshua Lochner, Stefania Druga, Eric Elliott, Mayo Oshin et al)

“Super excited to see what people build with the 3 5 16 K model, because honestly, like we think GP PT four is just quite expensive at this point.”

— Alex Volkov

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Alex Volkov
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14 Jun 2023
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Latent Space

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…For those of you who worked with OpenAI 3.5 and for et cetera, feel free to raise your hand and come up, ask questions as we explore this together. And I'll just say thanks to a few folks who join me on stage, Aton and John. And we, we've been doing some of these updates every Thursday but this one is an emergency session, so we'll see. Maybe Thursday we'll cover some more. So open the eye today released. An update the June update with a bunch of stuff and we'll start with the, with the simpler ones. But we're here to discuss kind of the, the developer things. We'll start with the pricing updates. So 75% reduction in embedding price. This follows a 90% reduction of embedding costs back in, I wanna say November, December. Anybody remember that? Maybe Roy in the audience Roy, feel free to come up as well. And we've seen kind of this reduction in cost on a, on a trajectory to basically, you know, being able to get to embed the whole internet. There's actually, I wanna find this. There's actually a tweet by Boris from OpenAI that talks about approximately it gonna cost you 50 million to embed the whole internet, like all of the text on the internet, pretty much. And Logan followed up today and said, you know, after the updates of the pricing today, it's around 12.5 million versus 50 million before. Just to give like a huge scope of numbers in terms of like how, how fast this, this type of tech advances. And we have audience and feel free when you finish eating, but basically there's now a debate whether or not embedding on client site is work, given that it's like social so free or almost like very, very heap bad stuff. Obviously it's an API and there's a concerns about using private data but embedding 75% cheaper. Imagine that you run embedding of production and John lemme know if you do Houston today if you switch to this api, you basically just received a 75% like price cut for, for the use of a bunch of, of a bunch of stuff. And by the Riley from Dxa here. Once he joins, they also, they do a bunch of embeds for pretty much every podcast out there. So, you know, just in one day, you, you can receive like a significant, significant decrease in costs. So, embedding price goes down significantly. Very exciting. In addition to this. Another price cut is the 25% for GT 3.5, But the thing I'm most excited about pricing wise today is the new 16 K GPT 3.5 model because I, I believe it's about 150% the price of GPT 3.5 turbo previous API pricing or what, what it is now, rather, and this is really significant for us because TPT 3.5 has never had that many tokens that you can Maxim on in your contacts window for. So when we build our input prompts for our co-pilots, it's usually using most of the 4K window just for the input. And so this is a massive, massive increase for us in terms of the economics of getting a big output compared to like GPT 4 32 K or GP PT four ak. Right. using most of the 4K window just for the input. And so this is a massive, massive increase for us in terms of the economics of getting a big output compared to like GPT 4 32 K or GP PT four ak. Right. It's a really, really big bonus for us and it's barely more expensive than 3.5 regular. So I think that's gonna be really massive. Super excited to see what people build with the 3 5 16 K model, because honestly, like we think GP PT four is just quite expensive at this point. Like we don't use it very much in production, which we, we, we talked last week in our spaces the roadmap for OpenAI, Sam Sam talk about this publicly, is to decrease the price and also increase the speed. But yeah. Lemme welcome a few more folks here. Welcome Sean who prompted this Emergency Emergency Spaces. How are you doing? How are you doing? I'm doing okay. I'm moderately excited about it. You know I think you and I had this chat. Where we were trying to scope out what the impact is. And I, I think this is an incremental update. So good news on, on many, many fronts. They're, they're shipping with really good pace, but not a game changer in my mind. Just incremental updates.…

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