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Alex Volkov: belief

14 Jun 2023 Latent Space Emergency Pod: OpenAI's new Functions API, 75% Price Drop, 4x Context Length (w/ Alex Volkov, Simon Willison, Riley Goodside, Joshua Lochner, Stefania Druga, Eric Elliott, Mayo Oshin et al)

“I think the thing about these spaces is we, we don't have Logan here or anybody open, and when we do.”

— Alex Volkov

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Speaker
Alex Volkov
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Claim type
belief
Recorded
14 Jun 2023
Publisher
Latent Space

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…Right. Yeah. So that's just sort of what I was, what I was getting at with the sort of in the, the bullet. I, I mean, I'm reading there, read me right, right here. It's like the bulletproof way to generate structured data. But so what I, I mean, this does not cover the case where you, the, the, the separation between the user's input and the calling of the function, that is always susceptible to problem injection. That, that, that's where the security holes are. But assuming that you are forcing it to generate a structured dot, like json, there are these current approaches where, I mean, it's modifying the loads. I mean, I'm, that's how I assume it's currently working, where it modifies how the next token is predicted. But so that, that, that's sort of what I'm getting at is like, so why hasn't OpenAI done that approach or have they, or Yeah. I'm, I'm not hundred percent sure on that. Yeah. I think the thing about these spaces is we, we don't have Logan here or anybody open, and when we do. They don't necessarily are able to tell us what they're using. Go ahead, Riley. Oh, I was just curious timing if you'd played with I think grant Sladen working on like context free grammar stuff that, like I linked a while back, I didn't know how that compared to JSON former.…

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