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Unsupervised Learning x Latent Space Crossover Special

29 Mar 2025 29 published claims 2 attributable people

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belief 19evaluation 4preference 2prediction 2commitment 1recommendation 1

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01 / belief

Yeah. And I think the reason I have to be here in SF is because I make friends with people who know things and are smarter than me, and we do go for chats and they're nice enough to share some stuff.

“Yeah. And I think the reason I have to be here in SF is because I make friends with people who know things and are smarter than me, and we do go for chats and they're nice enough to share some stuff.”
Speaker
Shawn Wang
Publisher
Latent Space

02 / belief

I don't, I think that's just a more general policy of no matter what they have at the top tier, they always want to have smaller versions of that in the, in the lower tiers.

“I don't, I think that's just a more general policy of no matter what they have at the top tier, they always want to have smaller versions of that in the, in the lower tiers.”
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Shawn Wang
Publisher
Latent Space

03 / belief

I guess the only other thing would be on the Apple side in particular, I [00:09:00] think, I think you know, for the last text message summary, like, but they're funny.

“I guess the only other thing would be on the Apple side in particular, I [00:09:00] think, I think you know, for the last text message summary, like, but they're funny.”
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05 / belief

We were talking on, on the car about Decagon and Sierra, obviously Brett, Brett Taylor is founder of Sierra. And yeah, it seems like there's just this, these layers of agents that'll like, I think you just look at like the income statement or like the, the org chart of any large scaled company and you start picking them off one by one.

“We were talking on, on the car about Decagon and Sierra, obviously Brett, Brett Taylor is founder of Sierra. And yeah, it seems like there's just this, these layers of agents that'll like, I think you just look at like the income statement or like the, the org chart of any large scaled company and you start picking them off one by one.”
Speaker
Shawn Wang
Publisher
Latent Space

07 / belief

You know, and I think deep seek specifically was just really surprising in how, you know, in many ways if the value of these model companies is like you have a model for a period of time and you're the only one that can build products on top of that model while you have it.

“You know, and I think deep seek specifically was just really surprising in how, you know, in many ways if the value of these model companies is like you have a model for a period of time and you're the only one that can build products on top of that model while you have it.”
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09 / belief

I mean, I think on the, the react side of things, I think we're starting to see more frameworks sort of go after more of that, I guess like master is sort of like on the TypeScript side and more of like a sort of master.

“I mean, I think on the, the react side of things, I think we're starting to see more frameworks sort of go after more of that, I guess like master is sort of like on the TypeScript side and more of like a sort of master.”
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10 / belief

I mean, I think that's gonna be like, I'm fascinated to see how that plays out over the next year and kind of these like frenemy dynamics and it feels like it's gonna first boil up on like cursor anthropic and like the way that plays out over the next six months I think will be.

“I mean, I think that's gonna be like, I'm fascinated to see how that plays out over the next year and kind of these like frenemy dynamics and it feels like it's gonna first boil up on like cursor anthropic and like the way that plays out over the next six months I think will be.”
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13 / belief

I mean, it's always an order of magnitude cheaper to replicate what's already been done than to create something fundamentally new. And so that's why I think deep seek overall was overhyped.

“I mean, it's always an order of magnitude cheaper to replicate what's already been done than to create something fundamentally new. And so that's why I think deep seek overall was overhyped.”
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14 / belief

I think now you can start to infer semantics from things that are beyond just like simple recognition to like understanding why certain things are happening a certain way.

“I think now you can start to infer semantics from things that are beyond just like simple recognition to like understanding why certain things are happening a certain way.”
Speaker
Alessio Fanelli
Publisher
Latent Space

16 / belief

I basically, mine's a little bit cheating, [00:53:00] but I think at some point there will clearly, like they're writing a book about OpenAI now, and at some point, like somebody probably acquired will get to do the acquired OpenAI episode.

“I basically, mine's a little bit cheating, [00:53:00] but I think at some point there will clearly, like they're writing a book about OpenAI now, and at some point, like somebody probably acquired will get to do the acquired OpenAI episode.”
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19 / belief

Sort of, I think there'll be a lot of workloads still on device, but when you need to speak to the cloud for larger LLMs, I think that Apple has done really interesting thing on the privacy side.

“Sort of, I think there'll be a lot of workloads still on device, but when you need to speak to the cloud for larger LLMs, I think that Apple has done really interesting thing on the privacy side.”
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21 / preference

Yeah, but I don't regard, I don't have, I don't use, put, put that in my mental framework of things like I come at this much more as a content creator or market analyst of like, yeah, it, it really does matter to me what has part of market fit because.

“Yeah, but I don't regard, I don't have, I don't use, put, put that in my mental framework of things like I come at this much more as a content creator or market analyst of like, yeah, it, it really does matter to me what has part of market fit because.”
Speaker
Shawn Wang
Publisher
Latent Space

22 / recommendation

That, that's why I, I would say I search is the first example of one of the things we used to mention on, you know, we had X on the podcast and perplexity obviously as a, as an API.

“That, that's why I, I would say I search is the first example of one of the things we used to mention on, you know, we had X on the podcast and perplexity obviously as a, as an API.”
Speaker
Alessio Fanelli
Publisher
Latent Space

25 / evaluation

This is an actual tipping point. And I think I like as people who are like, our function as podcasters and industry analysts is to raise the bar or focus attention on things that you think matter.

“This is an actual tipping point. And I think I like as people who are like, our function as podcasters and industry analysts is to raise the bar or focus attention on things that you think matter.”
Speaker
Shawn Wang
Publisher
Latent Space

26 / prediction

I think literally the, like the information just published a, like, this is something that they're worried about, which is when operator or whoever accesses your website on behalf of you, how does it indicate that it's not you, but it's, it's an agent of you.

“I think literally the, like the information just published a, like, this is something that they're worried about, which is when operator or whoever accesses your website on behalf of you, how does it indicate that it's not you, but it's, it's an agent of you.”
Speaker
Shawn Wang
Publisher
Latent Space

27 / evaluation

I was gonna say this, so I have a list [00:24:00] of like two years ago we, I wrote the Anatomy of autonomy posts where it was like the, the first, like what's going on in agents and, and and, and, and what is actually making money. Because I think there's a lot of gen I skeptics out there.

“I was gonna say this, so I have a list [00:24:00] of like two years ago we, I wrote the Anatomy of autonomy posts where it was like the, the first, like what's going on in agents and, and and, and, and what is actually making money. Because I think there's a lot of gen I skeptics out there.”
Speaker
Shawn Wang
Publisher
Latent Space

28 / preference

We try not to chase as many trends and I don't know, I, you know, I was a founder myself and sometimes I feel like it's easy to just jump in and do the thing that is hot, but like becoming a founder to do something that is like underappreciated or like doesn't yet work shows some level of like dread and self, like you, you actually really believe in the thing.

“We try not to chase as many trends and I don't know, I, you know, I was a founder myself and sometimes I feel like it's easy to just jump in and do the thing that is hot, but like becoming a founder to do something that is like underappreciated or like doesn't yet work shows some level of like dread and self, like you, you actually really believe in the thing.”
Speaker
Alessio Fanelli
Publisher
Latent Space
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