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Sarah Paine — How Russia sabotaged China's rise

31 Oct 2025 18 published claims 2 attributable people

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01 / evaluation

The communists get to claim the prestige of fighting the Japanese with a fraction of the effort. This just seems like a brilliant move on Stalin’s part in retrospect, because if they had killed Chiang Kai-shek, the Nationalist forces might have dissolved.

“The communists get to claim the prestige of fighting the Japanese with a fraction of the effort. This just seems like a brilliant move on Stalin’s part in retrospect, because if they had killed Chiang Kai-shek, the Nationalist forces might have dissolved.”
Speaker
Dwarkesh Patel
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

03 / evaluation

Leonid Brezhnev was in power for 18 long years and not only did he collect cars, that was apparently the go-to gift for him, but in addition he was collecting a bunch of non-performing piles across the Third World because this is manifesting Russian power.

“Leonid Brezhnev was in power for 18 long years and not only did he collect cars, that was apparently the go-to gift for him, but in addition he was collecting a bunch of non-performing piles across the Third World because this is manifesting Russian power.”
Speaker
Sarah Paine
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

04 / evaluation

For Russia it’s really devastating having China as an enemy because it’s going to have to deploy mechanized nuclear-armed troops all along its really long Chinese border, Central Asia, the works.

“For Russia it’s really devastating having China as an enemy because it’s going to have to deploy mechanized nuclear-armed troops all along its really long Chinese border, Central Asia, the works.”
Speaker
Sarah Paine
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

05 / uncertainty

Mao goes there and kowtows in Moscow and does what Stalin wants him to do. That’s Stalin’s experience until he, I don’t know, chokes on his Cheerios or whatever happened to him that morning.

“Mao goes there and kowtows in Moscow and does what Stalin wants him to do. That’s Stalin’s experience until he, I don’t know, chokes on his Cheerios or whatever happened to him that morning.”
Speaker
Sarah Paine
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

07 / uncertainty

I want to ask about your, I don’t know if you call it a prediction but, your hypothesis that at some point China and Russia will finish each other off or have some sort of conflict which will be bad for both of them.

“I want to ask about your, I don’t know if you call it a prediction but, your hypothesis that at some point China and Russia will finish each other off or have some sort of conflict which will be bad for both of them.”
Speaker
Dwarkesh Patel
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

10 / prediction

Also because China is so isolated by this war, it has no international friends but Russia, it’s going to tie China to Russia ever more firmly and give Russia breathing space to rebuild after World War II while its Western enemies are wasting time in Korea.

“Also because China is so isolated by this war, it has no international friends but Russia, it’s going to tie China to Russia ever more firmly and give Russia breathing space to rebuild after World War II while its Western enemies are wasting time in Korea.”
Speaker
Sarah Paine
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast

13 / recommendation

If you want to disintegrate the neighbors in order to delay their rise, well then you fund all sides of their civil wars and any side in between because you just want them to go at it.

“If you want to disintegrate the neighbors in order to delay their rise, well then you fund all sides of their civil wars and any side in between because you just want them to go at it.”
Speaker
Sarah Paine
Publisher
Dwarkesh Podcast
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